From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #471 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 13 July 2000 Vol 07 : Num 471 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: board pushing the_dojang: Memory Lane the_dojang: Workshop the_dojang: Re:Chuck's Awe the_dojang: Frank Dux the_dojang: RE: Real Life Situation the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 945 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:41:39 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: board pushing In a message dated 7/6/00 6:44:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I don't think this will accomplish anything except mess up the breaker's timing and distance. >> unless it's a tiny tot taekwondoin :). sometimes that little push by the board holder does _worlds of good_ for a pint sized ego. melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.chajonshim.com ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 01:53:18 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Memory Lane A recent post mentioned a small tournament held at the Dojang of Master Park Jong Soo in Toronto. >>That "Canadian National Championship" was a tiny event hosted in Master Park's one-ring, 2nd floor Dojang in Toronto. As was the case in that era, nearly all the champions came from Master Chong Lee's JiDoKwan dojang in Montreal. << The date given in this post is during the 1980's, and the majority of Champions are described as coming from Master Chong Lee. I wonder if this information may have some erroneous details. I may not be talking about the same event, but this is how I remember it. My webmaster is in the process of inserting some pictures of these events in our website (www.nkmaa.ca.) During the early 1970's, I attended such a tournament held at the upper floor of Master Park's old Yonge Street Dojang. General Choi was in attendance, along with many other dignitaries such as Joon Rhee. Joon Rhee actually demonstrated his new hand sparring gear - the tube - at this event. One of the pictures I mentioned shows General Choi presenting me with an award. Another shows the head table with some dignitaries. Yet another shows Master Chong Lee presenting me with a trophy at the following year's event held at the Varsity Stadium. While it is true that Master Chong Lee had some superb competitors during that era: Serge Langlois, Ray Nikkiel, and Daniel Richer for example, it is a misconception that they dominated the "North American TKD Championships" as they were billed (and later held at the Varsity Arena in TO). Major players during this era included: Don James, Dohee Lee, Peter Gretes, and Alphonse Gabidon whom I battled several times for the HW title. These players were from Master Park's school, and they certainly deserve much credit for their performance. Other major competitors included: Jeff Smith, and Pat Worley from Joon Rhee's school, as well as Mike Warren and Albert Cheeks from a well known Korean Instructor whose name I can't remember. I apologize if I am referring to another event; however, I do not recal Master Park ever having another tournament at his Dojang. His "North American TKD Championships" became the premier tournament to attend, and it attracted competitors in excess of 1200 from a wide area in N. America. Those were the days where a point was something that you would feel for days after (no padding), and competitors congratulated one another for scoring. It leaves me wonder whatever happened to the cameraderie competitors developed for one another in today's tournaments. Rudy W. Timmerman, Kwan jang National Korean Martial Arts Association ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:09:41 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Workshop An intense three day workshop on the Korean sword is planned for August 18-20 by Chiefmaster Rudy Timmerman of the National Korean Martial Arts Association. Limited space is available, only twenty-five persons will be accepted, and pre-registration must be received by August 1, 2000. Sorry, the event is reserved for Black Belts only. No exceptions will be made here; Sword experience not needed, but we won't have time to get REAL Basic. Among other things, the event will cover: sword basics, sword meditation, sheathing and drawing of the sword, cutting, inverted cutting, live blade cutting, straight v/s curved blades are explored and discussed. The straight sword form Jung Gum Hyung, as well as the inverted sword form Yuk Gum Hyung, will be covered in detail on Saturday and Sunday. The event begins Friday August 18 at 6:00 pm, and it will end on sunday, August 20 at 4:30 pm. For those who cannot make it on Friday, the material is reviewed Saturday am. This is not a workshop for the timid, and unless you are prepared to work your butt off, leave the space for someone who will. For more information please email the National Korean Martial Arts Association at www.nkmaa.ca ------------------------------ From: William Upton-Knittle Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:18:17 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re:Chuck's Awe At 01:19 AM 7/12/00 -0400, you wrote: >I remember when >the movie 1st came out, Chuck Norris commented that it contained the best >movie fight scenes he'd ever seen. Which shows his level at the time...actually, he and his brother were running a tiny school in Torrance at the time. I talked with him about possibly doing an article for "Black Belt" on Tang Soo Do.........but he didn't know enough about the art to give me any decent history, etc. b ------------------------------ From: "Rev. Charles H. Roberts" Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 05:18:23 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Frank Dux Several years ago, Frank Dux wrote a book about his life and experiences, titled "The Secret Man: An American Warrior's Story." (I may not have that title exactly right but that's pretty close) It has been several years now since I read it, but as I recall, I did not even finish the book because it was telling me the sorts of things I had hoped it would. And as for the "Kumite" I was rather suspicious of that whole thing from the beginning. Why would Chinese speaking people in Hong Kong host a fight to the death festival and call it by a Japanese name? Charles Roberts 3rd dan-SoRimSa Kwon Bup 1st Dan-Hapkido 1st Dan Tae kwon do ------------------------------ From: "Farral, Kim G" Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:47:55 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Real Life Situation Kev... Nothing at all to be angry about...you will relive the incident for years to come...unfortunate but true...during that time you will come to correct whatever judgmental errors you made in your confrontation...it's all instinctive...you reacted instinctively...I have seen a few fights, been in a couple, stopped a few...seems like the first thing a martial artist wishes to do is grab the throat...not sure why, I don't...my reach is usually much shorter than the person I am facing and I don't see where grabbing the throat will control the situation since that leaves the arms and legs free...many of the street fighters I have seen often start with a push or jump at the adversary...to knock them off balance and get the advantage I surmise...usually works too... The best thing I can offer for advise is stop letting it eat at you...learn from it...train for it...DO NOT give up your training...improve it... I was in a similar situation when I was a Temp Black Belt...I posted the incident way back in an earlier Digest...can't remember which one...so I know what you are feeling...don't let it get to you and prevent you from being better... Remember this...you never know what your adversary knows...always approach them as if they know as much or more than you and are well prepared to do battle...take a back stance position or sideways position to limit yourself as a target...keep your hands up, but relaxed...make it appear as you just want to talk, all the time being ready to respond...I like to stand in a back stance with my lead hand up in a knife hand guard, palm facing the opponent as if to just say slow down or stop, with the back hand ready to punch...very relaxed...if your adversary pushes you ...take the step back and face them...no harm has been done and sometimes, the push is as far as they are willing to go...just wanting you out of their "space" is all they are after...but every situation is different...you have to be the judge of the appropriate action... stay outside of your opponents circle...let him/her come to you...don't go for the throat...attack to eliminate your opponent's attacking capability...kicking the knee was a good start...why it didn't work I can't say...I wasn't there...I will venture to guess that you were performing as you train...light contact to prevent injury...and were unwilling (consciously or subconsciously) to kick full force to cause injury...(it's a tough thing to overcome)...joint locks and throws are a good start as well...control your opponent on the ground...don't let them stand up... These are just some suggestions...I can't relive your experience or tell you what wrong or what was right...as I said ...every situation is different and your reactions will be different...keep practicing for improvement...don't give it up. The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 7:04:51 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #471 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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