From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #505 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 29 July 2000 Vol 07 : Num 505 In this issue: the_dojang: Hapkido Kwans << Subject: the_dojang: Re: loyalty >> the_dojang: HKD Schools in Champaign IL the_dojang: New Thread the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 910 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: todd miller Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:47:00 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido Kwans I believe Master Whalens Kwan is Moo Ye Kwan not Chun Ki Kwan. ------------------------------ From: LenGWhite@cs.com Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:44:03 EDT Subject: << Subject: the_dojang: Re: loyalty >> In a message dated 7/28/00 10:13:15 PM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Subject: the_dojang: Re: loyalty >> Loyalty is a two way street. How right you are. We recently made the gut wrenching decision to change schools, and to leave behind the friends we had made in the 18 months we have been training, due to such a breach of trust. The issue was the effort put forward by the instructor -- and the dual standards that existed at the school. The Instructor acknowledged that his students would not perform well in competition at forms, so implied that sparring would be our forte. That said he would frequently (most often) leave the school without so much as a tae-kwan during our sparring practice which takes place during the last 20 to 30 minutes of each class. We discussed this but he seemed to be in the defense mode, rather than acknowledging what his students were concerned about. His loss, we hope, is anothers gain. In training Len White ------------------------------ From: david alexander soruco Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:08:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: HKD Schools in Champaign IL Hello, I know someone moving to Champaign IL, and I was wondering about HKD schools in the area... - ---dave--- (: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ :) David Soruco "Frolic in the face of danger." dsoruco@kate.ucs.indiana.edu http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~dsoruco ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:58:50 PDT Subject: the_dojang: New Thread > I have found, basically, that kicks are introduced in one of two ways in >virtually every dojang I have seen. Either techniques are introduced more or >less one-at-a-time, with the next technique being taught after reasonable >competence is shown with the prior one. This, BTW, is how I was taught and >how I teach. > I later encountered schools where pretty much every kick is presented at >the white belt level. I've survived both methods... When I first began in Tang Soo Do we did all the basic kicks, blocks, strikes from day one. The first ~45 mins of each class (back in the good ole day when a class was 1.5 to 2 hours long) was pretty much the same. Warmups, stretches, all basic kicks (10 low, 10 middle, 10 high, both legs), punches, blocks, etc. Then the remaining 45 to 60 mins was spent on different things on different days. It was in this portion of the class that advanced belts worked on the more advanced techniques and forms and sparring, while the newer belts worked on the kibons, the first form or two, and continued to practice the basic kicks and other movements in combinations. It wasn't until I got into TKD that I first encountered the layering of techniques. You weren't supposed to practice certain kicks or blocks because they weren't techniques for your level. I must say that I like the first method. But it seems to be a teaching technique that probably works better with adult classes than classes of children. ??? In those days there no kids in class. These days that isn't the case... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:00:14 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #505 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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