From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #521 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 5 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 521 In this issue: the_dojang: Kyokushin Curricula the_dojang: Re: Han Moo Kwan Book the_dojang: Sin Moo Hapkido Seminar the_dojang: tkd history the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 925 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Reed Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:23:23 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Kyokushin Curricula ***Kyokushin Karate sparring, however, does retain at least 2 Korean style characteristics that make it differ from the other Okinawan-cum-Japanese Karate-do like ShotoKan. They are 1. The full-contact format, and 2. The prohibition from face punching.**** Begging everyone's pardon but this is not accurate. Goju and Shito schools had experimented with full contact and rudimentary protection gear since the 1920's. They also prohibited face punching which was nonetheless discouraged by the fact that the headgear was essentially a catcher's mask. This is well documented in many print and photo sources. Therefore, it seems more likely that Kyokushin owes its full contact style to Okinawa as the Chinese rarely engaged in full contact sparring of any sort using two-man forms instead. The Kyokushin curricula is also very Goju oriented from a forms and exercise perspective. They use many of the uniques exercises and equipment to Goju. As to Southern Chinese Kempo, it seems far more likely that Goju or a related style was taught to him. The Japanese were very strict about their cultural controls. From another perspective, if you look at Hwang Kee's books you find that the forms there exactly echo an Okinawan curriculum. In fact, Okinawan forms were far more prevalent as during the 1930s and 1940s, as many styles were not yet popularised in Japan, Goju and Shotokan being the main exceptions. As well, if you look at the manner in which the forms were done immediately after WWII, they are very Okinawan in style. By this, I mean the sliding and distancing footwork was more complex, the hips were emphasized, and the postures were higher compared with most performances today. I make this statement based on the published books at the time like Hwa Soo Do. All in all, I've concluded that one can pretty closely trace the sources of the forms and the cultural move away from the memories associated with the Japanese occupation by the steady tranformation and adaptation of the forms. Today, I only know of one instructor who teaches pretty much what was done in 1945. If anyone else has resources on this I'd like to hear about them. Respectfully, David ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:45:02 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Han Moo Kwan Book In a message dated 8/4/00 8:26:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Miss lllona, I would be happy to sent you a book by Grandmaster Kyo,Yoon Lee. This book has a list of all of his accomplishments to include when he founded the Han Moo Kwan. Send me your address and I will mail it to you. It is actually a good book about TaeKwonDo. >> Kwan Jang Dan Rogers, I will be glad to reinburse you for this book ... ! As I would love to study this further! I have always wanted to know more about the TKD I had studied and no one could really tell me or didn't want to tell me ... I don't know. I just know it was explained to me that it was one of the smallest Kwans ... and we were the only one in California. Probably not true ... but I would like to find out more. Thank you so much for the offer ! I will be sending you my address thru private email. Thank You Again ! Respectfully, Illona ------------------------------ From: RDNHJMS@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:21:42 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Sin Moo Hapkido Seminar Ray, It's that time of year again. Dojunim Ji, Han Jae will be conducting his annual Florida Sin Moo Hapkido seminar in November. Here are some details: When: 11-12 Nov 2000 (Sat-Sun) 0900-1700 Where: Korea Martial Arts, Valrico, FL (Just outside Tampa) I will post additional info soon. All those that are interested, please e-mail me off-line. It will be a great time with some great people. We'll have special lodging arrangements available (i.e. sleep on the mat in the dojang). This will help keep expenses down for those traveling on a budget. V/R, Rick Nabors rdnhjms@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 11:05:02 PDT Subject: the_dojang: tkd history Yet more has been added to A Modern History of Taekwondo (see chapter 5). http://www.martialartsresource.com/korean/history.html It is also indexed via the site's search engine. Thanks for all those that continue to forward the new sections along to me. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 11:21:12 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #521 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.