From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #526 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 7 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 526 In this issue: the_dojang: Re:Hit Man movie the_dojang: Re: Congrats the_dojang: RE: 99% the_dojang: Stretching question... the_dojang: re: Comments on one readers idea about TKD as effective street art the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 935 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:30:46 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re:Hit Man movie I just saw the hit man movie on FX. I think paladin must be sick. While I agree everyone has the right to read and write what they want. I also beleave that they should be held accountable for what they say. You can't tell people that it is okay to go out and kill others and then claim that it's not your fault when they do it. If a man came into your school and told you they wanted to learn to fight so they could kill their wife with their bare hands, would you teach them what they wanted to know? Paladin wants to make money by advocateing people to go kill others for fun or profit, then they should at least be willing accept responsability to pay the families of the victims for what they advocated. Personally I think they should get more but that is problem with our justice system, it protects the criminals rather then the public. To bad they can't get the author. Freedom dosn't mean you have no responsability for your actions. And Freedom of speach dosen't mean freedom from the responsibility for what you say. Sorry Alain I can't go with you on this one. Scott the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com wrote: > From: ABurrese@aol.com > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 12:27:09 EDT > Subject: the_dojang: Hit Man movie > > The movie about the Paladin Press lawsuit over the book HIT MAN is on TV > tonight Aug 6th. FX channel. > > I've seen a number of ads for it now, and it looks interesting. It looks as > though it won't show Paladin in the best light. One ad had a car driving > past with a shoe along the edge of the road way, with a voice over saying, > "The shoes you wore should be discarded as carefully as your weapon....Toss > them out separately at intervals along the highway. Ever see a single tennis > shoe lying in the road? Now you know from whence it came....." > > That was right out of the book. (p105) Sort of funny. > > I still think it is ridiculous to sue Paladin Press over a book. And not > just because Paladin is my publisher. I'm all for being able to write and > read what you want, and then each person is responsible for their actions > after that. > > I'll let people know more about the movie after I see it tonight. I'd like > to hear what others that see it think as well. > > Yours in Training, > Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 23:57:37 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Congrats In a message dated 8/6/00 7:31:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Congratulations to Lindsey Dietz of Haney Martial Arts on her promotion to 1st Dan Blackbelt. >> My congratulations go out to her as well. I am glad she has had that type of training there with you. That is excellent! Illona ------------------------------ From: "Michael Rowe (outlook)" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:58:17 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: 99% >The question at hand: Why do instructors in the U.S. use the >poom rank for students older than 16 (knowing that the poom rank >is used for minors under 16)? I mean, aside from revenue >issues. At which point b posts: <> I've seen your post many times before sir and this time I must speak up. 99% of these rank holders have never been taught basics? Malarkey! Quit brandishing these high percentages around. I don't seriously think that my students are in a select 1% of the countries children Poom ranks that are taught and drilled in the basics. (and believe me I do) I have no doubt that children as a whole are not taught the full importance of these basic foundational skill (such as why they work the way they do) but they are taught them in many schools across this country. And they are improving. There are certain aspects that must be reserved for later study by students since early study by children can be damaging to their joints and ligaments. However the striking and grappling arts are well taught to children in this country. Any instructor that doesn't think that 4 year olds can be taught the fundamentals of the arts have never seen dance students then. I watched a 4 year old give a beautiful performance of Tap (5 minute routine) he displayed balance, poise, focus, and rhythm. As well as total knowledge of the choreography. Michael Rowe ------------------------------ From: Erik Kluzek Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Subject: the_dojang: Stretching question... Question about stretching... Recently, I've modified my stretching regimen to follow the guidelines given in "Stretching Scientifically", by Thomas Kurtz M.Sc. (he's the guy in black belt magazine that does the side splits between chairs). A basic overview is as follows: Morning stretching consisting of leg raises (dynamic stretching). Warm-up as follows: Joint rotations Aerobic activity Dynamic stretching (with the most intense stretching coming after the workout) List member Jim Floyd, pointed out to me that dynamic stretching without passive stretching to prepare muscles can often lead to injury. So I re-examined the part of Kurtz book that talks about warm-up stretching. He says "static stretching as part of the warm-up is counterproductive". Now, isometric stretching is counterproductive because it's hard on the muscles and wears them out before your workout. Ok, so that's straight forward. He also doesn't recommend static relaxed stretching since "muscles can't work for a few seconds afterward, and it has a relaxation effect and can actually make you sleepy". So not really a big deal. Now, I also looked up Brad Appleton's Stretching and Flexibility FAQ and he does put static relaxed stretching before dynamic stretching. And goes on by saying "It is important that static stretches be performed before any dynamic stretches in your warm-up. Dynamic stretching can often result in overstretching, which damages the muscles. Performing static stretches first will help reduce this risk of injury." (pg 27). This is exactly what Jim Floyd told me. Ok, so Brad Appleton's FAQ contradicts Kurtz book. Those that follow Kurtz method, do you modify it to add static stretching? Have you had any problems with over stretching? Should I modify the morning stretching routine? If I start out slowly with the dynamic stretching does that help allieviate these problems? Are there references that go into more detail about potential problems with doing dynamic stretching without static relaxed first? Overall, I still want to follow Kurtz method. If I follow it as closely as possible I should expect the results he talks about. If I don't follow it, all I can say is that I didn't follow directions. No matter what you think about Kurtz he does display impressive results. And he shows a lot of pictures of people of all ages using his method to achieve the same. So he can't be wrong on everything. But, it does look like he's wrong on this point... Thanks Erik Kluzek Boulder CO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: "Miguel" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:02:13 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: re: Comments on one readers idea about TKD as effective street art > From: Ken McDonough > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: the_dojang: Comments on one readers idea about TKD as effective street art > So, I was reading this comment from another individual and now post it from > another cite (site). Any comments gladly encouraged and not personalized. For > discussion purposes only: Funny how just a few weeks ago I read in this list about a guy who was detaining a alleged shoplifter and was knocked out by a kick to the head after he tried to disable the guy with kicks to the knees. According to common lore, go for the knees and never high-kick are common words of advice. Another thing, if you practice high kicking, you can certainly low-kick with power without injury and without having to warm up, or stretch. I really think that if we're so worried about "the street," we should get certified in Smith&Wesson-Do. Miguel Garcia's Tae Kwon Do http://www.garciatkd.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:31:49 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #526 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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