From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #532 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 9 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 532 In this issue: the_dojang: Hapkido Eagle the_dojang: Re: Bags the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #530 the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #531 the_dojang: Re: video options the_dojang: Re: Hit Man movie the_dojang: re: Comments on one readers idea about TKD as effective street art the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 955 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tomlinson, Michael E." Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:31:03 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido Eagle Ray, That is really cool, I asked GM Ji the same question last November during a break while we were training and he told me the exact same thing, almost word for word. Michael Tomlinson ------------------------------ From: "Jim Griffin" Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:35:03 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Bags Speaking from (very limited, admittedly) personal experience, I know that when I have practiced my wheel kicks on the heavy bag, I've had very mixed results. It doesn't seem to hurt my knees at all, but if my kick is the least bit sloppy, it tends to hurt my hip (on the kicking leg) quite a bit. Roundhouses seem to be ok, but when I throw them on the heavy bag I make a point to turn my hips all the way over so that the kick is traveling as perfectly horizontally as I can get it. Ditto with hooks. I've not thrown crescents against the heavy bag, but the very thought makes my knees hurt. - ---begin quoted message--- From: David Reed Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 19:37:09 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Bags I have been told by an orthopedist that there are a number of kicks which should not be done against heavy bags greater than 40 lb. They are crescent and wheel kicks. He also said that hitting a heavy bag greater than 75 lb with a hook kick or roundhouse is also unwise. His justification was that at near extension or extension, the impact force will unduly stress knee ligaments. Using a swinging motion with lighter bags makes the same effect also. I therefore use a variety of bags for training different areas. I guess if you had to get one, I'd go for a 75 lb and use a hand target for the most knee-wasting kicks. I'd also consider the padding and give of the bag. If you rarely use ball of the foot techniques, I'd get a relatively softer one. Same workout, less shock. I'd be interested in what equipment drills people do for specific kicking attributes. Regards, David - ---end quoted message--- - ---===--- Jim Griffin http://sitebuilder.liveuniverse.com/jgriffin/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Floyd, Jim" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:38:08 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #530 - -----Original Message----- From: Ken McDonough Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Fwd: Re: Heavy Bags,Equipment,etc.; addendum Forgot to mention: a. I personally do not like the Century free standing bags that are filled with water. Too much breakage. Try the Ringside Bags. Unbelievable action and construction. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- We have had the same "bad luck" with the Century water filled bags. Jim Floyd Warrior Alliance ------------------------------ From: "Floyd, Jim" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:47:07 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #531 - -----Original Message----- From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:25:25 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Money or your Life? In a message dated 8/8/00 7:19:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > So I follow that advice and do those > low kicks against the bag because as you said "low kicks do not take much > skill". > I know my lack of skill will come in handy when I have a confrontation with > a low skill thug in the street who wants my money or my life. As much as I like fighting, I propose giving up the cash as a first line defense in a "money or life situation." What do the readers think about this? SESilz - ------------------------------ You can always get more money (or other possessions) but you only have one life. Let them have it ($). Jim Floyd Warrior Alliance ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:11:24 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: video options In a message dated 8/1/00 11:35:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Yours in Training, Alain Burrese >> alain, i think it would be great if you put out a video on the sole topic of fitness training. with your certification and experience, i'm sure it would be a benefit to us all. one on weight training would be great too. melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.chajonshim.com ------------------------------ From: Jesse Segovia Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:23:28 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Hit Man movie Scott wrote: > I just saw the hit man movie on FX. I think paladin must be sick. These points may already have been made, but I think it's important to point out that as far as I know, the Hit Man book does not tell anyone that killing is OK, and Palladin does not advocate killing others. They've written and published a book which contains information which may be used to kill, just as a gun or a knife or an automobile may be used to kill. Let the person who uses the book to commit the crime take responsibility for his/her actions. There's lot of speech out there that we may find repugnant, but it's still protected. Remember, some of our most tightly-held beliefs are considered repugnant by others, who might want to muzzle our rights to express these beliefs. If we would enjoy the blessing of freedom, it's our obligation to extend these same blessings to others. Jesse ------------------------------ From: Jesse Segovia Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:32:58 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: re: Comments on one readers idea about TKD as effective street art Miguel wrote: > Funny how just a few weeks ago I read in this list about a guy who was > detaining a alleged shoplifter and was knocked out by a kick to the head > after he tried to disable the guy with kicks to the knees. According to > common lore, go for the knees and never high-kick are common words of > advice. Another thing, if you practice high kicking, you can certainly > low-kick with power without injury and without having to warm up, or > stretch. > > I really think that if we're so worried about "the street," we should get > certified in Smith&Wesson-Do. Very nicely put. One of the cable channels, Court TV or CNN, had a segment on violence in the courtroom. As part of their lead-in, they showed a montage of violent incidents taking place in the courtroom. In one clip, a VERY large defendant in a yellow jumpsuit, hands shackled at his waist and feet shackled together, was standing up while two large guards, one male and one female (she's was big, too) tried to do a 'hockdown' on him; they both had him up around his head and shoulders with their arms and were trying to kicking out the back of his ankles with their heels. Guess what? He was having none of that; he wasn't going anywhere! And there were TWO guards trying to get him down! The high kicks have worked, just as the tried-and-true 'safe' techniques sometimes fail. I think it's best to train in different ranges for different types of combat, and I believe high kicks are an effective part of that. Jesse ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:36:26 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #532 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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