From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #539 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 11 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 539 In this issue: the_dojang: looking for a dojang the_dojang: HapKiDo Seminar the_dojang: USTU Meeting the_dojang: Battle of Atlanta Re: the_dojang: looking for the right dojo the_dojang: Hapkido the_dojang: Dojo, Dojang, Kwon the_dojang: the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 965 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whisper ShadowOak" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:08:41 EDT Subject: the_dojang: looking for a dojang Does anyone know of anywhere in the Douglasville, GA area that teaches taekwondo and/or hapkido? I'm going to school at UWG and am looking for something closer to school. - -Jenna ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "J. R. West" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:01:04 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: HapKiDo Seminar Ken et al: Our August 25th-27th seminar is rapidly approaching, and, as of right now, we will be offering a variety of HapKiDo "stuff" such as various weapons, counter techniques speed takedowns, falling techniques etc. and basic wrist seize techniques for the "new to HapKiDo" crowd, along with some instructor forums on directions of momentum, balance breaking, finishing techniques and school management. We will also throw in a class on ki breathing as well as an introduction to HanGul. By popular request I'll be doing a "relaxation" class at the end of Saturday's workout. We also have seminars in the next 2 months in: Mosinee, Wisconsin....Sept. 23rd Hampstead, Maryland....October 14th Houston, Texas.... October 21st If anyone would like info on these upcoming dates, feel free to contact me at any time... J. R. West www.hapkido.com ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:12:02 EDT Subject: the_dojang: USTU Meeting Speaking with President Sang Lee this morning, he asked me to help him convey the following message to the members of the USTU Board of Governors and other interested parties: "Due to the strong sentiments expressed against the proposal to meet in Hawaii this November, the officers have withdrawn that state from consideration as a location for the Union's 2000 Annual Meeting." I know Oklahoma President Sweet, and a few of her comrades, should be quite relieved by this announcement. Now what? On to the next battle? Sincerely, SESilz ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Battle of Atlanta Forwarding... Ray - ---------------------------------------------- As you know, the martial arts have exploded all over the globe! And we are excited! And so, as we prepare for Joe Corley's BATTLE OF ATLANTA 2000 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP: A New Dawning, September 8-9, in 100,000 square feet of the beautiful Atlanta Hilton & Towers, we invite you to take a LOOK! MORE THAN 300 DIVISIONS! From individual sparring to traditional forms, open forms, musical forms, musical weapons and fitness kickboxing to team sparring, team forms, team demos and team fitness kickboxing, this is the martial arts event that will inspire you and your friends & students for years to come! FREE POSTER! We invite you to order our free BATTLE OF ATLANTA Collectors' Edition poster as you preview this, your own state-of-the-art, personal Electronic Card greeting & invitation. We think you and your friends, students and training partners will enjoy this electronic greeting, featuring our three Super Heroes--MENTU, SHAI & LUGH. Simply copy and paste this link into your web browser, then sit back and enjoy your invitation! http://www.battleofatlanta.com/ecard.html They will guide you to our new poster and new web site, where you may order your own free collector's edition poster--as you learn about this year's 32nd annual TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS. We will be updating the site almost daily, so please visit us regularly for updates on celebrity appearances, special match ups and special offers. FREE SEMINAR: Under the Facts Button at our Web Site, you will also read about the FREE BUSINESS SEMINAR (value $199) for studio owners, discussing advertising and marketing in the new millennium. FREE TICKETS & TEE SHIRTS FOR JUDGES: If you are a Black Belt who would like to officiate with us on Friday and/or Saturday, please go to the Officials RSVP section of the web site and send us your information. We thank you for your interest in our event, and if we may be of any service, please do not hesitate to call on us. Event Producers BATTLE OF ATLANTA 2000 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP ------------------------------ From: "Daniel G." Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:59:08 EDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: looking for the right dojo To the best of my knowledge, Chaim Sober has never taught tkd. Are you sure it's tkd you're looking for? As Ray's mentioned, it's called "dojo" for a reason. Were you not happy with the style, the instruction, or something else? General things to look for: An instructor that will let you watch and/or participate in a trial class, will be able to answer questions about the style & affiliation. Students that are well-mannered & look like they know what they're doing. More specific questions & things to look for depend on the style. First we should make sure if it's tkd you're looking for. ~Daniel >> im 15 years old and living in brooklyn ny, i trained in tkd for 2 years >> through the tora-dojo (i wasnt happy there) when i was about 7. i am looking >> to get back into training but it seems much harder to find a reputable dojo , >> please help me! if no one lives in the area please, help me by telling me >> important questions to ask and things to look for in a dojo, also are there >> any affiliations i should ask about? > >Gary, ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: LAHapkido@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:58:19 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido Anne, What part of Minnesota do you live in? One of my students recently returned to Minnesota after retiring from Special Forces. He will be teching in or around Tower as soon as he gets settled. He has spent the past 20 years training with me in Hapkido and is a 5th Dan. He would be happy to work with you. I can send you more info. via private e-mail. Good training. Kwan Jang Daniel Rogers World United Hapkido Association ------------------------------ From: LAHapkido@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:26:46 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Dojo, Dojang, Kwon Gary, While it may be hard to understand there are numerous very good Instructors out there that because of a lack of formal or proper information regarding Korean terms may refer to the training hall as a Dojo, and the uniform as a Gi. This does not make them any less a true TaeKwonDo Instructor, just a less informed one. It is important to keep in mind that many of the early American Instructors were returning service men that did not learn terms and were more interested in techniques. In the early days of Martial Arts most instructors were teaching a form of Karate or Judo and used Japanese terms. These terms became what was used by almost everyone. Even in the mid 1960s and early 1970s the term used for Taekwondo was actually Korean Karate. The reason given to me when I asked one of the pioneers of TaeKwonDo was because "every body knows what Karate is and no body knows Taekwondo. As a matter of fact one of the first Taekwondo books written in the U.S. was titled Korean Karate. All that we can do is help others become informed as to the proper terms in Korean. I have known many Instructors in the U.S. and overseas that use only English. Does this make them any less effective? I doubt it. A friend of mine once laughed while viewing a class being taught by a young American Black Belt, when I asked him what was so funny he said Koreans teach in English and Americans teach in Korean. After years of training I have found this to be true. As long as you have a positive affect on your student, I feel that that is much more important than what you refer to your training hall as. just my thoughts for the day. Train to live and live to train. Dan ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:37:38 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: My two cents on finding the suitable Dojang. > i am looking > to get back into training but it seems much harder to find a reputable dojo , > please help me! First: Never sign anything until you are happy that you have found the right school. Buyer Beware! Next: It has been my experience that one must be very careful about credentials that are not supported by evidence. Certificates can be bought very easily, and tournament wins etc. may never have occurred. To make matters more difficult, qualified martial artists also state legitimate credentials. This makes it nearly impossible to distinguish the real from the fake. In addition, some of the best tournament competitors can't teach -- period. The same goes for Black Belts regardless of rank. It takes a special person to be able to convey the curriculum in an effective way. Not everyone can simply mimic an Instructor, some students also need a good explanation etc. A good teacher must be able to communicate the material by various means. Visit as many schools as is feasible for you, insist on trying out some (free) classes, and see who is the best at conveying the lessons to you. Don't forget the other important answer in a previous post -- check out the school's more advanced students. That is often a good barometer of the Instructor's skills. See what the Instructor can do with the average student, don't just look at his "naturals". Check the attitude of the school's students as well, they might be your classmates! These are by no means the only things to look for, but they are a beginning. The closest, or cheapest, school may not be the best. What good is a pair of shoes you can pick up cheap next door, if the shoes don't fit. You may need to go the extra mile to get what you need. Sincerely, Rudy, Kwan jang National Korean Martial Arts Association. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:10:12 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #539 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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