From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #541 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 13 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 541 In this issue: the_dojang: Getaways the_dojang: Re: Pilates the_dojang: ITF rules the_dojang: RE: Berkeley Springs, West Virginia the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #534 the_dojang: vee arnis jistsu the_dojang: unique training opportunity the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 975 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:25:39 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Getaways Ken McD wrote: > My instructor recently brought several of his students on a canoe trip on > the Cacapon River as a weekend getaway. I thought that was a good idea. > > Questions: > > Do any instructors here use similar weekend getaways for their younger > students ? We use every opportunity, seminars, tournaments, and other martial art activities, to add a few days/weeks of cultural and/or nature experience for our students. For some, it is the first and only time they ever get to see things like: the Louvre, Yellowstone Park, or the Grand Canyon etc. Each year, we do a weekend wilderness excursion where all Black Belt candidates run a challenge course. We find this to be a great team builder, and the confidence of students jumps off the scale after completion. One thing we insist on is that the "entire" team does things like climb over a flat 12' wall etc. We won't let it become an "I'm better than you" affair. I stongly suggest all school owners to look into such activities. Rudy National Korean Martial Arts Association ------------------------------ From: JSaportajr@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 13:28:12 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Pilates Does anyone on this list have any experience with Pilates. They have opened a studio near my home, and it seems a form of muscle strengthening and stretching that is ideal for martial artists. I understand that the New York City Ballet uses Pilates extensively. Its also pretty expensive. So im curious if anyone has experience with this form of conditioning. Jose ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:02:01 PDT Subject: the_dojang: ITF rules Back a month or so ago we had a short thread on ITF tourny rules. I just ran across this old email and thought I'd share. Ray ========================================================================= From: craig stanley Subject: ITF RULES Mr. Ray Terry, My name is Craig Stanley. I am a 5th degree with the ITF. I was passed a question about ITF tournament rules by Laurie Willox. I am unaware of any electronic copies of the rules but I can give them to you as well as another E-mail where you can try for an e-set of rules. Points awarded as follows: 1 point for punch to the face or body while attacker is standing on the floor. 1 point for a kick to the body while the attacker has one foot on the floor. 2 points for a jumping punch to any target 2 points for a kick to the head while the attacker has one foot on the floor 2 points for a jumping kick to the defenders torso. 3 points for a jumping kick to the head. There are a number of warnings that can be called and a number of minus points. An accumilation of 3 minus points result in disqualification. Drawing blood also causes an immediate disqualification. Any 3 warnings will result in a deduction of a point at the end of the match. 12 warnings would equal 4 points lost. These points deducted do not add together with any minus points given during a match to cause a disqualification. They are two seperate catagories. The fights are controlled contact to legal targets. The targets are torso and front of head. Neck is not a target. Excessive contact is first warned and then minus points given. Drawing blood is instant disqualification. The list of warnings and minus point infractions are numerous. I will try to get an e-list to you. As an example of some rules, leaving the ring is a warning, as is grabbing your opponent, also falling down. If you have one foot in the ring and one foot out, you can be scored upon but can not score on your opponent. If you injure your opponent so he can not continue you are disqualified. To truely understand the application of these rules you must see a tournament. The contact allowed is greater than one might expect. Our style is not actually no contact. The desire to win is very great in competitors and the referees do a great job in controlling the matches. At the black belt level there are knockouts and injuries. The speed and level of intensity of these athletes is incredible. We are talking about control to the millimeter. Sometimes the target moves, sometimes the athlete misjudges by a hair and an injury occurs. When all is said an done the matches are very exciting to watch. I hope I have helped you a little with your quest for ITF rules. There are of course other ways we compete as in board breaking, both power and special technique and in patterns. We also have team competitions for all the above. If you write to the ITF web site you may get a more complete answer. Their e-mail is masterchoi@itf-taekwondo.com. Taekwon, C Stanley ------------------------------ From: "Ryan Shroyer" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 08:53:14 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Berkeley Springs, West Virginia > From: Ken McDonough: > Any readers here familiar with Berkeley Springs or West Virginia > Dojangs/Dojos ? Mr. McDonough, I grew up in that same area of WV in the city of Martinsburg, which is just a few minutes away from Berkeley Springs. And, yes, there is an incredible dojang there if you'd like to check it out. The school is instructed by Masters Bill & David Quenzel and they've both been teaching there for a long time. They were my first instructors (back in 1987) and were also the toughest, most demanding, and most qualified I've ever had the pleasure of studying under. They teach the Chon-Ji pattern set. And, while they're not affiliated with the I.T.F., their instruction is pretty much the same (minus the sine-wave). If you're going to be staying in the area, look them up in the phone book under "Quenzel's Karate & Self Defense Club". (They do, indeed, teach Taekwondo -- exclusively. But, back when they were first starting up their school, no one had ever heard of it. All people knew was the word "karate". So that's what they used in their title, and they've just never changed it since.) I hope this info is useful to you. Sincerely, Ryan Shroyer Korean Linguist, USN The (Shamelessly) Unofficial TKD Hyung Resource http://ryanshroyer.tripod.com/ ------------------------------ From: Beungood@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:57:33 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #534 In a message dated 8/10/00 9:49:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Ken: I personally do not like the Century free standing bags that are filled with water. Too much breakage. - --------------------------------- Jim: We have had the same "bad luck" with the Century water filled bags. >> Anyone have experience with "Powerair" heavy bags? Ive heard they are awesome... Jack ------------------------------ From: HardCoresixpax@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 02:00:59 EDT Subject: the_dojang: vee arnis jistsu Mcd you gave me this web site (http://www.veearnisjitsu.com) and told me Prof james runs a satellite school in brooklyn, i did a little reseach and the style taught there really seems like something i want to pursue so anyone with any information on the school instructor or style (vee arnis jistsu) please let me know. aslo, everyone thanks for all the tips and Mcd thanks for the lead. later gary ------------------------------ From: "Daniel G." Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 03:22:51 EDT Subject: the_dojang: unique training opportunity Oh goody, a chance to try out those knife defenses. ;) ~Daniel > >The U.S. Embassy in Seoul advises U.S. citizens traveling or >residing in South Korea that there have been several random attacks >in recent weeks involving Americans, including the stabbing death >of a U.S. Army medical doctor, in the Itaewon district of Seoul. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 7:10:11 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #541 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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