From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #561 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 21 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 561 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #558 the_dojang: Shaolin Chi'na the_dojang: RE: 18 weapons the_dojang: Re: The First Amendment-My Input the_dojang: Looking for a particular article about martial arts mastery the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 990 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CKCtaekwon@cs.com Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:11:22 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #558 In a message dated 8/20/00 9:44:12 AM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Wow ... where do you live, Gary? I have a 2200 square foot school and it costs me $900 a month just in rent ... not counting the air conditioning I have to use in the summer time (I live in the desert) ... and lights/water/trash, etc. You got a great deal there. :-) >> Live in small town about 15 miles just outside San Antonio Tx. Bought a lot and built a 2100 sq. foot metal building, complete with heat and air, bathrooms, carpet, office etc. Total cost, $42,000. see picture on web site. New CKC Web Page ------------------------------ From: "Tomlinson, Michael E." Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 07:59:21 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Shaolin Chi'na I have said for years that after viewing Shaolin Chi'na for the first time I was amazed at how much it looked like Hapkido. Personally I couldn't care less at which country or who was the one to invent Hapkido, I have no cultural preferences when it comes to history. I have many many videos and at least 4 books on Shaolin Chi'na and I enjoy checking it out. The only person that basically has ever agreed with me that Shaolin Chi'na actually looks like Hapkido is Master Hahn of the World Hapkido Federation. We had a long e-mail talk about it a few years ago and he knows much more about the history of Martial Arts than he lets people know. I don't mean he is keeping things from people, it is just that nobody takes the time to pick his brain. That is one of the great things about being on this keyboard, it gives me access to Masters, and Grandmasters from all over the planet and to coin a phrase from John Belushi in Animal House,, "it don't cost nothing". Michael Tomlinson ------------------------------ From: Ray Simmons Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:51:06 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: RE: 18 weapons David wrote: >As to the eighteen weapons, basic conscripts were never taught all or = >even most of them. Why? Many of them such as the Monk's Spade and Kwan = >Dao were expensive to fabricate and very challenging to learn. Why = >would you go to the trouble to obtain and teach them to a temporary army = >raised for a specific, temporary campaign? Most peasants learned the = >spear to be cannon fodder in the front ranks. Many of the classic = >weapons also had no place in warfare the way it was conducted then = >either. These weapons were for classes which had time, money, and = >instruction in them. The book is an encyclopaedia of martial techniques = >for general reference and examination. I'm sure many of us would be interested in knowing what the 18 weapons are. Can someone list them with a brief description of the more obscure ones? Thanks - -Ray 1st Dan Hapkido Blue belt TKD - -- Ray Simmons EMC Corporation res@mil.emc.com 5 technology Dr. (508)435-1000 x55669 Milford, Ma. 01757 - -------- Opinions are mine alone --------- ------------------------------ From: Jesse Segovia Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:27:25 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The First Amendment-My Input Nice sentiment, and I think most politicians agree with you. This is why every day our precious freedoms are given away or severely diminished, in the name of domestic tranquility. Thus, freedom of speech, as long as no one could possibly be offended. Freedom of religion, as long as you keep it in church on Sundays where it belongs. Freedom to bear arms, as long as there's no hint of potential disagreement in your personality, you register your weapons with the authorities, and you use only the type of weapons and ammunition which the state approves. Freedom to assemble, as long as you get a permit in advance. And freedom to associate with whom you want to, as long as the state decides you're not discriminating against anyone. Jesse the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com wrote: > IMHO: Having said the previous...it is the responsibility of the initiating > individual and all subsequent individuals, groups, organizations, etc. to > take the it upon themselves to determine the overall effect of their actions > and/or words on the common and general public of the United States as a > whole to insure the domestic tranquility of the whole ...it is a matter of > being responsible for yourself and the results of your acts, actions, and > words. ------------------------------ From: Rudolph George-P27574 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:05:50 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Looking for a particular article about martial arts mastery All, A couple of years ago I happened to be wandering through Borders' magazine isle, pulled out a martial arts magazine, and read an article about martial arts mastery. Specifically, the author discussed 5 things he looks for in determining whether someone has reached mastery of their art. I only remember one of the 5 things, which is "the ability to create, demonstrate and master variations on the basic techniques". If I had been thinking straight that evening, I would have bought the magazine, but I didn't. I realize this isn't much to go on, and no, I don't recall which one it might be-- I could name a bunch, but I'd only be guessing--but if anyone recognizes this article from what little I've given, I'd appreciate the reference so that I can find it again. - --------------- George Rudolph Mad Scientist Motorola GMSG - --------------- ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:28:54 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #561 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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