From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #572 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 25 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 572 In this issue: the_dojang: black belt ceremony the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #570 the_dojang: Hapkido 9th Dans the_dojang: WTF Prez? the_dojang: Letter from the "General" the_dojang: Sept. issue of Black Belt the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #571 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 995 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jere-hilland" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:02:46 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: black belt ceremony I was once told that if you make to big a deal over awarding chodan (ceremony, high fees, etc), that the students may be under the impression that they are 'finished', that they have reached a giant goal. They may not realize than just starting as a serious student, you may have a lot of students who drop out after reaching this 'very important goal'. It has turned out to be true. Jere R. Hilland ------------------------------ From: DWoods321@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:03:32 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #570 KyoSaNim Redfield, Welcome to this list I am also new to it and find it very informative. Not as much fluff as other lists I have visited. By the way this David Woods from Indiana. I saw that your daughter passed her latest gup test congratulations to both you and her. It's good to have you here. Take care. Tang Soo! David Woods ------------------------------ From: "G. Booth" Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:59:57 +1000 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido 9th Dans GM Ji has promoted at least 13 people to 9th Degree. He has complete records of every individual he has promoted from 1st to 9th Degree and the certificates are numbered in order, eg 9th degree #1 and so on, take a look at the rear of Dr He Young Kimm's book Hapkido II and you will see his certificate which is number 11. Some of those people include, GM Bong Soo Han GM Myung, Kwang Sik GM Kim, Jin Pal GM He-Young Kimm I also believe that recently Jurg was promoted to 9th as well as Yung T. Freda, GM Ji's sort of right hand man. People talk history all the time and forget it is what is happening now in the Hapkido community that is more important, we are the people who are going to shape our future, not the instructors who have brought us to now. As a Hapkidoist it is simple to say all we need to do is "Get on the Mat" this separates the real Hapkido people from the rest. On a side note I was privileged to spend some time talking with Dr He-Young Kimm on the recent USKMAF Korea/China tour as well as meeting with Grandmaster Kim, Jung Soo who was Choi, Yong Sul's 9th Student. Both these men had some interesting things to say on Hapkido and the formation/creation of what it is we are all studying today. GM Kim also related to Dr Kimm who the first 10 students where under Choi and his thoughts on Hapkido, an interesting tour. Regards Geoff Booth International Hapkido Alliance Australia Hapkido Group http://hapkido.netro.com.au "The art is in the person, all we have to do is bring it out" ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:22:48 EDT Subject: the_dojang: WTF Prez? In a message dated 08/23/2000 8:11:49 PM Mountain Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I haven't heard that, but it wouldn't suprise me. > Choi Jung Hwa becomes ITF President and the General accepts > appointment as WTF President. >> Right, then Clinton steps-down and Boris Yeltsin is appointed by Congress President of the United States. Gee, and I thought everyone already knew that. SESilz ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:37:05 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Letter from the "General" In a message dated 08/23/2000 8:11:49 PM Mountain Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << General Choi as president of the WTF is indeed 'wild' speculation - I think it would be very unlikely. It would essentially mean the absorption into the ITF of the WTF, >> While doing research for the USTU history I am currently working on, I came across a 25 year old document on ITF letterhead, signed by "General" Choi that I though was very interesting, and reminiscent of the thoughts expressed above. The letter written to first USTU (then called NAAUTC) President Dr. Ken Min and dated from 1975 is basically a strongly worded demand on the part of Mr. Choi for the USTU to accept "ITF Hyungs." Mr. Choi goes on to state that if the USTU "accepted" ITF Patterns, then the ITF would, in turn, "recognize" the USTU. History, of course, tells us what Dr. Min's answer was. Sincerely, SESilz ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:58:53 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Sept. issue of Black Belt Two interesting articles in the September issue of Black Belt mag. (1) Given the recent mention of San Soo and SCARS, there is a short article on San Soo Kung Fu. (2) Montana's Kim Sol has a short article on the evolution of Taekwondo sparring in Korea and how it developed the art into something clearly different and separate from Karate. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Placace@aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 23:49:25 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #571 In a message dated 8/24/00 6:58:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org >>>>>> Hello everyone. I am new to list. I been lurking for few weeks. I see this at end of every digest. I was wondering how many on the digest are USTU members? It seems Ray Terry is a member. I was wondering if you hold official position in state or national? You seem like big supporter of USTU. With respect Mike Placace ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:32:29 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #572 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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