From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #574 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 25 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 574 In this issue: the_dojang: Need Korean terms the_dojang: Re: Boxing drills the_dojang: Re: Drills - Reply to Ken the_dojang: Re: taeguek meanings the_dojang: Re: Who are USTU Members the_dojang: Black Blelt Ceremony the_dojang: Heavy Bag Kicking the_dojang: Re: On your knees=answer for Mr. Cresswell the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 995 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rudolph George-P27574 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:51:45 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Need Korean terms All, I'd like to know the Korean equivalents for "sticky hands" ("chi sau" in Chinese) and "trapping range". Thanks, George Rudolph ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:07:12 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Boxing drills Yes, We practice the basic punches from boxing too. Jab, Cross, uppercut and hook. We do some drills like boxers. Alain ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:04:36 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Drills - Reply to Ken Ken: "In sum, my comments are focusing on the issue that different training modalities and applications vary. There is no one perfect training drill." I agree! I was justs giving one drill we use out of many. And I'm not saying there are not valid reasons to turn one's back on an opponent. Some spinning techniques and such will work if you have practiced them. Some Hapkido joint locks require you to pivot or spin, and so on. What I don't like, is when you have a line of students kicking a bag one after another, and when it is their turn, they kick the bag and then head to the back of the line. (or the next line if you are using multiple bags, etc) Some people get where they are headed to the next bag or the end of the line before they have even put their foot down after the kick. It is this bad habit that I tried to eliminate with the drill of following the kick with something else, preferably multiple stikes using the continuous attack principle. Now, if we are using a drill where I am holding a target (paddle) for them to kick, no I don't want them to pound me with other strikes after they kick the paddle. I do want them to be recovered from the kick and ready to do something else before they head to the end of the line though. So the drill I shared was not the end all and be all of drills, it was just one of many, and I gave the reason I like it and it's purpose. Many drills should be incorporated into one's training program, depending on the goals of the individual's training. Yours in Training, Alain ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:37:39 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: taeguek meanings In a message dated 8/16/00 7:42:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I was told by my sensei that all the art forms of the Taek Wan Do and all the respective martial Arts contains meaning in all their moves, is there anywhere I can read more about it? I'd love to know what each movements means, my favourite tae-geok in Taek Wan Do is the 7th and I want to know more about each of the paterns I perform whenever I perform Tae-Geok 7. Please Tell >> this mightve already been answered....i'm running way behind. turtlepress has a great website with lots of info on the taegueks. you can find them at www.turtlepress.com melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.chajonshim.com ------------------------------ From: SallyBaughn@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:40:17 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Who are USTU Members In a message dated 8/25/00 10:48:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I was wondering how many on the digest are USTU members? >> I, my husband, and my son are all USTU members. Only my son is a TKD practioner, but my husband and I joined USTU as competitor members in order to support our State Association and USTU. Competitor members are allowed to be on the floor at sanctioned events; therefore, we can help in any way necessary when attending competitions. USTU isn't perfect; but, overall, membership in the Union is a good way to support and be part of TKD in the US. And you can always work to help correct any problems you perceive, thereby making the Union better and better. Sally SallyBaughn ------------------------------ From: Dave Weller Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:34:15 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Black Blelt Ceremony Two respected list members posted the following: >From: "Dana Vaillancourt" >I guess I agree with Jere. I think the most meaningful part of the ceremony >is actually testing for your dan ranks and then receiving a simple promotion >by your instructor at the end of a regular class/seminar. Whether your >instructor puts your belt on you or not ( I prefer to tie my own belt!), the >presence of your winded peers, students, and perhaps your instructor at the >end of a sweat-soaked class keeps it simple and meaningful to me. A black >belt is a student first and should keep that simple premise and humility in >mind. > >>From: "jere-hilland" >>I was once told that if you make to big a deal over awarding chodan >>(ceremony, high fees, etc), that the students may be under the impression >>that they are 'finished', that they have reached a giant goal. They may not >>realize than just starting as a serious student, you may have a lot of >>students who drop out after reaching this 'very important goal'. It has >>turned out to be true. I recieved my black belts in the exact manner I recieved each promotion prior to that: Called to the front during a regular class. Instructor hands over belt and certificate, might say a few words about the test. Then turn to class, bow, tie on belt in the locker room and begin anew the "seasoning' of a belt. No pomp or circumstance just a simple act in front of the people who helped make it possible. Those sweat soaked evenings are the reward, the belt just holds up my britches! dave weller wtf tkd student "Practice a thousand hours and you learn self discipline. Practice ten thousand hours and you learn about yourself." Myamoto Musashi ------------------------------ From: "Farral, Kim G" Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:12:46 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Heavy Bag Kicking I have to comment on the Bag Kicking in total disagreement... Heavy bag kicking does not preclude multiple kicks...in spite of the bag, the leg still operates on it's own...as does the leg operator... Kicking slowly does not teach slow kicks...to the contrary...practicing kicks as slow as possible with the proper technique results in faster and more powerful kicks by training the muscles, the body, and the mind in "memorizing" the motion so it becomes automatic and second nature... Practicing proper technique consistently will result in speed, power, and reduction of physical problems...Practicing only speed techniques results in speed and physical ailments...like so many speed technique Martial Artists having hip replacements... Not my Opinion...My Experience... The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: On your knees=answer for Mr. Cresswell Mr. Cresswell asked: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:27:15 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: TKD & Hapkido on the Knees Thanks for the informative debate and discussion. I'm new to the Digest, but I know it will certainly be a worthwhile relationship. I am currently studying TKD, and I have been for the past year or so. Took some karate when I was a kid, but got into it seriously again last year. I played football and rugby for years, and to put it lightly my knees are shot. My legs are out of alignment and cause me a fair amount of problems. It's called Patello-Femoral Syndrome and it makes deep knee movement hard with a lot of noise. I have had surgery once to clean it up, but it cannot repair the damage. I have spent a great deal of time in physiotherapy, but I was wondering if anyone has this condition and how they have dealt with it studying martial arts. Secondly I was wondering if Hapkido would be any better for me. The less kicking the better it will be I think. Justwondering....Thanks, Andrew" Response: No jokes about anyone being on their knees, but I will tell you the following. I used to do a lot of jogging with my dog "Lady", who is never on her knees. Well, one day I was with my Black Lab, Lady, and (she is tied to me via a harness), as I was jogging I heard "Pop". The cartilage in my knee popped and I could hear bone against bone. Visit to Physical Therapy and braces thereafter. Six months later the same thing on the other knee. This time the sound was "Snap, Crackle, Pop". In short, I stopped jogging outside. Upon recovery I do whirlpools, stretching, deep knee bends slowly, and running on a treadmill. I do swimming, stationary biking, and rowing. I have not had a knee injury in five years. I understand the arts of Hapkido and Arnis/Escrima are less kicking oriented. Water Polo is also a great sport along with Luge. Luge is actually an Olympic Sport ? McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:16:06 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #574 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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