From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #583 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 30 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 583 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Taekwondo and Being Korean the_dojang: the Famous Billy Hong the_dojang: Info wanted: Origin of Dobok, meaning behind how belt is tied the_dojang: RE: low kicks the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #582 Re: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #582 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1000+ members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HwarangTSD@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:32:05 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Taekwondo and Being Korean In a message dated 8/30/00 10:04:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Hello to all martial artists....................I practice Chang Hon Taekwon Do, and we know that our art has many moves from okinawan/japanese systems. Throughout the years, many changes were done to differentiate this system from it's original roots, but we do acknowledge the okinawan/ japanese heritage. My question is geared towards why sooooooooooooooooo many taekwondoists are still insisting that this is a purely ancient korean art; including the name TAEKWONDO.....Chang Hon Taekwon Do was founded by Choi Hong Hi, back in the 1950's...He did change many moves, added the "SINE WAVE", and even came up with 24 new forms just for this particular style of Taekwon Do...It is a very traditional style with sparring , breaking, forms, grappling, pressure points, meditation, and of course the history of oriental culture........................................ >> While I agree that TKD has roots that are Japanese/Okinawan, I also believe that TKD is a completely Korean Art. Even though an idea or a technique may be from another country, in this case Japan, TKD was developed in Korea. It couild even be considered to be a evolution of Japanese martial art, though I think that would be a stretch. The name Taekwondo is distinctly Korean. Supposedly, Choi setteled on this name because it sounds like Taekkyun. Their are other older names that were used for TKD, that are very Japanese in their meaning... ie Kong Soo Do, Way of the Empty Hand, Tang Soo Do, Way of the China Hand, etc. Hope this helps. Frank ------------------------------ From: "Charles H. Roberts" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:17:41 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: the Famous Billy Hong Well, I do stand corrected! It seems as though I was the one who never heard the story! Jeri's TKD page is one that I was familiar with, but as you can see there is a LOT of stuff on it, so I had missed that story. And if anybody would be in a position to know if the story about Master Hong was true or not, Jeri surely would. SO, you are right, and I am wrong. I do apologize. I will say this, though, in Master Hong's defense. Whatever his claims about Japan may have been, this much I DO know: he was one tough guy! Unlike some of the "pretty boys" who pass for TKD "masters" today, Billy Hong, like others from his generation of Koreans who lived through the rigors of warfare, was hard as nails, and earning a chodan in his school in Anderson, SC (his first, and headquarters school) was not an easy task. It was, in many ways, at least in the early days, like being in the Marines! Charles Roberts ------------------------------ From: Rudolph George-P27574 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:05:51 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Info wanted: Origin of Dobok, meaning behind how belt is tied All, I'd like information on the origin of the traditional pull-over Taekwondo dobok (as opposed to the Japanese-style dobak with the tied flaps), and information about why the belt is tied the way it is. A lot of websites describe how to fold the dobok, and how to tie the belt, but none of them give a reason why or meanings. I do know that the way my Mudukkwan school ties the belt is the same way we did at at a Kenpo school I used to train-so I'm wondering if the belt style comes from the Japanese... Thanks, George Rudolph ------------------------------ From: "Atchinson, Kerry M" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:14:06 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: low kicks > ------------------------------ > > From: "JASON SCHOFIELD" > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:59:47 GMT > Subject: the_dojang: Low Kicks > > Also do any of the TKD/HKD people on the list do low roundhouses? > Jason Schofield > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > You bet! Sometimes ankle-high is all I can do! Kerry WTF TKD Codger ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:26:33 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #582 In a message dated 8/30/00 7:03:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > Wadda you mean!! We all know that Taekwondo is 2000 years old. > > :) > > Ray "Just Kidding" Terry > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > How does that make: Gungfu, Kempoh, Okinawa-Tae and Japanese Karate-do, then? SESilz ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:31:01 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #582 > > Wadda you mean!! We all know that Taekwondo is 2000 years old. > > > > :) > > > > Ray "Just Kidding" Terry > > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > > How does that make: Gungfu, Kempoh, Okinawa-Tae and Japanese Karate-do, then? ?? It doesn't. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:05:31 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #583 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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