From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #598 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 18 Sept 2000 Vol 07 : Num 598 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Flower Boys the_dojang: TKD at Purdue (for Kim) the_dojang: RE: Knifehand Terminology the_dojang: Olympics TKD the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dunn, Danny J RASA" Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:28:03 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Flower Boys In regard to your post Ray,and to Craig's post as well. I have to say first that I don't know what the true story is. That the military ideal connection was "exaggerated" would not surprise me greatly. I don't know that this takes anything from the Korean martial arts. My experience is that the Korean martial arts can stand on their own, toe to toe with any other styles from any other country. However, based on my experience, I also remain skeptical of "independent" history books. I have read in several history books that the Boxer Rebellion in China, which is a lot nearer us in time than the Hwa Rang, was a rebellion in which young men's athletic clubs participated. That sounds like Chinese YMCA's rebelled against the British to me. The Pratt and Rutt text also seems to have a lack of supporting information about the Hwa Rang necessary to explain the context. Why would young men want to paint their faces an sing on certain mountains? I'm not saying the authors are right or wrong, just that there is not enough context information to make their conclusion make sense to me. There are always many views on history, all colored by the perception and goals of the author. Danny Dunn <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:26:30 GMT Subject: the_dojang: TKD at Purdue (for Kim) >From: joneskh@purdue.edu >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:40:45 -0500 >Subject: the_dojang: Knife hand strike phrases and Olympic TKD coverage >I've checked the nbcolympics.com website, and here at >Purdue we don't have MSNBC that I know >of...........and....I checked the schdules and they are >showing 49kg.> women's category on 27 Sep anywhere >between 1000-1700 EDT on MSNBC. >(If there's anybody else who knows whether or not >Purdue dorm cable gets MSNBC, please feel free to >correct me!) >Kim Kim, Are you training at Purdue? I was there from '89 to '93 (I know, I'm dating myself). While there I trained for a while with the Purdue Taekwondo Club (under Master K. Young Chai). There is also a Purdue Ji Do Kwan Club, but I never checked that out. If you ever run into Angie Cogar tell her I say "hi". Angie was a senior student of Master Chai and a pretty good friend. Hopefully she might still be in the area. Please feel free to give her my e-mail address as well (caspiller@hotmail.com) and tell her to drop me a line. Thanks a lot and good luck with your studies. Taekwon, Chris "Every experience of beauty points to infinity." Hans Urs von Balthasar _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Dunn, Danny J RASA" Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:32:01 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Knifehand Terminology Carmelo Gauci requested: What are the proper Korean names for the following please : #1 Single Knife hand strike #2 Double Knife hand strike Carmelo, I guess different systems have different terminology. I saw some responses with different terminology from that we use, so I thought I'd add this. Knifehand "soo do",strike "as in a sharp blow with a knifehand is chik ki or chig gi" We also frequently add descriptives such as "outside to inside, pakheso ahnuro", or inside to outside, ahneso pakhero" and levels or targets. Double is "ssang", though it is much more common to see this as twin knifehand block, block is "mahki" Hope this helps. Danny Dunn ------------------------------ From: "Mac" Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:20:10 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Olympics TKD From: SallyBaughn@aol.com <> Sally, I believe it will be 10am - 5pm. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:36:16 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #598 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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