From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #609 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 22 Sept 2000 Vol 07 : Num 609 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: On Being Virulent and Martial Arts Class AND Stretch Machines the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #606 the_dojang: chatter and solo ideas the_dojang: TKD in Cambridge the_dojang: Requests for Olympic Coverage for TKD the_dojang: Re: Combatives Reply the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #605 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #608 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #608 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken McDonough Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: On Being Virulent and Martial Arts Class AND Stretch Machines Response: HeHe He. Well, it is only 24 hours. But, the memories are coming back ? Sort of reminds me of the time I was in class, behind a big rotund individual. ____ was blocking me from the instructor. The instructor was trying to show a new kick, and I could not see due to the massive person in front of me. Don't get me wrong, I understand that genetics and health problems can result in excessive weight gains, but 550 lbs. ? Not only that this person had a Big Mac and a french fry tucked in his uniform--attempting to hide it no less. ____would sneak a snack when the instructor was not looking. I lost it and blurted out, "Hey, have you heard of Yogurt !" In my best thick NYC accent. The instructor reminded me that I was out of order and moved the student to my left--where I could still see the burger now hanging from his belt... Anyway...seriously-- Stretch machines. Please provide pros and cons. Have heard some good and some horror stories. Any experiences ? Is it worth the money. Brands ? Cheers, Ken "Being somewhat virulent" McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: LJSFLEM@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:42:47 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #606 In a message dated 9/21/00 8:19:43 PM !!!First Boot!!!, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I am on Tae Geuk Oh Jang. In the school my family goes to, I am a purple belt. (Belts go white, yellow, orange, green, purple, blue, brown, red, black-belt recommended, black. >> Sarah, We have more belt rankings at our school: white, yellow, orange, green, blue, purple, high purple, red, high red, brown, high brown, semi black, black. I started TKD to replace physical therapy after a serious accident/ankle surgery. Although I may not be the most physically able, I contibute my time to the school and love training. I am better than I ever hoped to be. I am ever grateful to my instructor, who took me on as his student. At present, I am the oldest in the do-jang. My Mother attended our last promotion test. She was in tears of joy at my progress. West Point is within 1 1/2 hours of where I live. Best of luck. Tae kwon, Lorraine ------------------------------ From: Gary Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:03:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: the_dojang: chatter and solo ideas Hey guys- I'm a long time lurker to the list and thought I might as well introduce myself. I started training in Kuk Sool Won in 1995 at the University of Illinois at U-C. I started on a whim and it became a small obsession. When I was at Illinois, I trained at class four days a week (about 2 hrs. a class), and did an additional night of sparring with some friends. I also did weight training outside of class. However, early this summer I moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming. The closest Kuk Sool around here is in Denver, so I go there once a week for saturday classes. I also joined a local judo club to try to keep in shape, which meets twice a week. The rest of the time I practice on my own. This leads me to my question. I'm looking for ideas for solo drills to work on. Currently I do forms, kicks and hand strikes in the air, shadow box, and weapons drills. I also do running in the mornings and lift three times a week for conditioning. I don't have a heavy bag to whack yet (hopefully next month). So what drills do you guys do when theres no one willing to let you fold, spindle and mutilate them? (my fiancee is totally unreasonable about this) GK ------------------------------ From: John Maihos Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:46:51 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: TKD in Cambridge Gordon, If you don't find a suitable TKD club in Boston, and if you want to consider another Korean art, here's a thought. I train in Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan, at a dojang 20 miles north of Boston in Middleton. We have a few students who commute from Cambridge and Somerville. There is some general information about the art and school at http://thekaratecenter.com. - -John - -John Maihos Delphi.com Chat Specialist Homepage: http://members.delphi.com/jmaihos ------------------------------ From: SallyBaughn@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:01:56 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Requests for Olympic Coverage for TKD nbc_comments@recipio.com We've been told this address will send e-mail to a real person who'll read it and forward to proper people who may be able to help. Please consider sending a request that NBC re-think its coverage (or lack of same) for TKD in Sydney. I believe they're making a big mistake and writing off a huge pool of viewers because we're not loud enough (maybe because of the training in courtesy and respect) : ) Thanks for your help. Sally SallyBaughn@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Knife1@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:15:40 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Combatives Reply Mr. Durkin-- As a Basic Training Instructor at Fort Knox, Kentucky. I should know what the manual looks like. First of all, the manual is not used when teaching the combatives program. A packet of information called a training support package (TSP) is used. It gives the exact training guidelines, equipment to use, where is acceptable to train, and lastly for long each portion of the program is to be trained. Please do not get me wrong here, I am not flaming your comment or making any type of disparaging comments, but the Army "COMBATATIVES" program of instruction that is taught in Basic Training and supposedly throughout the rest of the Army is NOT what is in FM 21-150. The new TSP is labeled HH1. Having served in the Army now for 14 years, and been an Instructor at the US Army Ranger Course and teaching Hand to Hand in that course, I feel somewhat qualified to speak on what soldiers get taught out of. Tsp.'s get developed in a short period of time, whereas a field manual takes years to write and develop. And sometimes, the two do not match. As is this case. Believe me, I think that the program of instruction is OK, however, for a soldier to depend on in time of a life or death crisis, it should teach one how to kill an enemy instead of submit him. Again, sorry for the long post. SSG Jim Mahan US Army Ranger ------------------------------ From: LJSFLEM@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:33:16 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #605 In a message dated 9/21/00 4:35:08 PM !!!First Boot!!!, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I am learning Taeguek Sam Jang >> Correction to my post: Taegeuk Sah Jang Sorry all, Tae kwon Lorraine ------------------------------ From: Beungood@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:49:13 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #608 In a message dated 9/22/00 10:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << New Army Combatives (Again) >> I always liked the theory and techniques in the Marine Corps fighting program (LINE- Linear infighting neural override engagement). It looked similiar to Hapkido or Juijitsu. It seemed alot better than the program I learned When I went through (1982) JAck ------------------------------ From: LAHapkido@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:56:49 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #608 Jacko, that was the same question that Special Forces Soldiers on Fort Bragg asked, the answer was it didn't. They have since began training in a system that has been developed by a retired Marine based on training in combat gear and dealing with multiple attackers. It is known as LINES and is quite effective from what I have seen. Just for the record the entire U.S. Army has not adopted the Combatives system as gospel. That was done at Ranger Training as suggested by the Higher UP's and their infamous wisdom. I can only hope that they come to their senses before it is to late and realize that they have made a mistake. It is not to say that what they have won't work I just don't think that it is what a Soldier needs in combat. Dan Rogers ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:02:57 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #609 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.