From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #614 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 24 Sept 2000 Vol 07 : Num 614 In this issue: the_dojang: more Oz the_dojang: Re: NBCOLYMPICS the_dojang: Stretch Machines the_dojang: Re: Thanks Ms. Pride=any info on drills ? the_dojang: Re: Striving for Mediocrity the_dojang: Hand to Hand in the Army the_dojang: solo practice the_dojang: Bill "Superfoot" Wallace Kicking Seminar the_dojang: Combatives in Police actions the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1150 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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For the full story, go to: http://drive.quokka.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/mcp?q=STZduTE5Y4PJv Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Robert Martin" Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:05:50 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: NBCOLYMPICS This is a pretty good site except for the "history" section: Taekwondo is the name of the martial art or "way" developed independently more than 20 centuries ago in Korea. Now popular all over the world, it is described as a free-fighting combat sport in which bare hands and feet are used. Taekwondo combines sharp, strong angular movements with graceful and free-flowing circular motions to produce a harmonious balance of beauty and power. In Korean, taekwondo means "the way of kicking and punching." It is more accurately called a "way" rather than a sport because the participant is expected to improve spiritually while gaining proficiency in the sport. In Asia, there are three basic striking martial arts: taekwondo, karate and kung fu. Judo, also an Olympic sport, is a throwing/grappling martial art How can they claim that TKD is 20 centuries old when the name wasn't coined until the mid 1950's? This kind of misleading "reporting" hurts TKD's credibility, IMHO. Regards Robert Martin > >From: "Miguel" >Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 09:17:19 -0000 >Subject: the_dojang: NBCOLYMPICS > >This site has sime pretty cool stuff. Make sure that when you go there then >select 'taekwondo menu' in the third drop-down box. >http://www.nbcolympics.com/?/features/ >Miguel ------------------------------ From: "tink73" Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 11:17:36 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Stretch Machines McD... Stretch Machine... A pulley secured to overhead structure...A rope through the pulley...A White belt tied at one end of the rope...works great! The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 09:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Thanks Ms. Pride=any info on drills ? Ms. Pride corrected me, re: < This is rather funny when viewed when you understand that the original writer just was making a joke - saying his fianceé was being unreasonable about letting him fold, spindle or mutilate her. :) He didn't mean she was not accepting his workout schedule, only not accepting serving as a sparring "dummy." :) Heheheh, re-read your post from this context. - - -Sarah Pride-> Response: I responded in a joking/humorous manner. You sort of remind me of a Lt Colonel female supervisor I recently had. She was so much into the weeds that she questioned why the toilet seat on her new house had a slight 2 percent slope. She had the contractor come back in and put in a complete toilet seat. This was subsequent to having the contractors do a complete inspection of the ventilation system when she discovered a small bit of insulation on the ground in front of the house. Moral= you can't please everyone all the time. Do you have any thing about martial arts drills to comment on. At least I placed that in my response. McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "tink73" Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:05:01 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Striving for Mediocrity What is most bothersome to me is that we may be setting every one of these kids up for failure when it really counts, simply because we want to [artificially] raise their self-esteem today. Have to agree with statement...I see too many instructors and senior ranks pumping kids full of praise when they should be correcting their errors as well as being disciplined...there are instances where troubled or less capable kids have specific problems and the praise and discipline must be administered in amore careful manner...however...in general...the kids are being praised for simply putting on the uniform and standing in line...their focus, concentration, and technique are atrocious, but they are promoted and praised because..."They are just children."...Are we teaching a Martial Art?...or are we teaching kids to be lazy by expecting reward without effort all under the guise of preserving their self-esteem? Personally, I am very sick of seeing Red/Brown and Black Belts from ages 6 and up that are no better than white or green belts at best just for the sake of not hurting their feelings or their parents feelings... IMHO...it is time to start failing these kids or not letting them test until they can prove their proficiency...if they cry...let them cry, they'll get over it and maybe even start to put forth an effort...if they quit...let them quit...but teach them that nothing comes for free...you must work for what you want to achieve... If you want praise...earn it...if you want promotion...deserve it... The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: "tink73" Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:05:05 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Hand to Hand in the Army CB... Have to agree with William on this...it does work great have used it myself ...used it the first time during a football game in high school (you should have seen the kid's face as he went over)...I have used it for demonstrations and in class...it really does work well...it was taught to the ground forces during WWII...Specifically to those going to the South Pacific...It was promoted as a "little trick picked up from the enemy"...it was stressed that the enemy was very adept in an oriental style of hand-to-hand combat called "Judo"...which was little known by the Western world at the time... And don't forget to finish it with a neck brake of throat tear!!! The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: Gary Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:28:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: the_dojang: solo practice Thanks to Alain and Ken for the book and website suggestions. Alain, I agree with you about practicing alone. I really miss working out with others. Besides just not being able to practice some things, I don't get feedback or get the energy of working out with a group. As for my fiancee, while she doesn't like me practicing techniques on her she is very understanding about my practice schedule. She is a medical resident and works 60-90 (or more) hours a week, so she thinks its great that I have a hobby. > Finally, I understand your KSW obsession. However, remember that there are > many other martial arts systems just as effective as KSW, e.g., Hapkido. > > McD... Oh I know. And if I'd been introduced to the martail arts through Hapkido or Wing Tsun or whatever I'm certain I would be obsessed with them. I'm actually kinda disappointed that I have never been close to a Caiopera school so that I could give it a try. > Response: Gary, I lived in Chicago for a few years. Also, took a few > graduate school courses at U of I, Chicago. I wonder if you studied KSW I went to school at U of I in Champaign-Urbana, oh great college among the corn. I've met people from the Chicacago KSW school but have never been there. I tend to avoid cities (thus Wyoming). GK ------------------------------ From: "Adam Gibson" Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:43:01 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Bill "Superfoot" Wallace Kicking Seminar Hi everyone, My name is Adam Gibson and will be having Bill "Superfoot" Wallace in = Bowmanville, Ontario for a seminar on Advanced kicking techniques. It will be about 3.5 hours long. If you want to participate please = e-mail me at: videoman@idirect.com Or call 1-905-697-3239. I can either e-mail you the seminar package = info or mail one out to you. All styles and belt colors welcome. Bill and I hope to see you there!!! Sincerely Yours, Adam Gibson (Superfoot Seminar Host) ------------------------------ From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:30:20 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Combatives in Police actions Hi All, Vic Cushing mentioned that there should be a differentiation between combatives training for war and for police actions. There is, of course. Vic, I know you've worked with Dr. Gyi, and I've even seen you in one of his boar stick chokes. I assume he told you the stories about the use of that stick technique in Korea in the early 1950s. For my money, it is about as good a close range stick system as you can find, but Dr. Gyi also mentioned that it was pretty ineffective as a riot control method once the protest organizers figured out what was happening. Then the UN troops got bicycle spokes shot through them. What then is a good system for police actions? Should the military just accept this sort of personal injury when policing? Or is there an alternative? Is there a clear line between legal protesters using nonviolence and rioters engaged in criminal activity? Can some of the police officers on the list help us out here? What is the criteria for determining response? Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:14:57 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #614 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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