From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #617 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 25 Sept 2000 Vol 07 : Num 617 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: barrons korean the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #613 the_dojang: Re: Olympics the_dojang: TSD weapons the_dojang: Re: Tang Soo Do Weapons Subject: the_dojang: Diabetes in Martial Arts the_dojang: Dibetes the_dojang: RE:Tae Kwon Do Books the_dojang: How Old Is It? the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #615 the_dojang: Diabetes and HapKiDo the_dojang: Thanks! ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1150 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:23:56 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: barrons korean In a message dated 9/24/00 7:56:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << One that is pretty comprehensive is "Mastering Korean" by Barron's. It has a text book and 12 tapes and will run you $75 or so. You can get these at any bookstore, or over the web. They have the courses in many languages, so you may need to ask a book store to order for you. >> they have this one at my local library. you might want to check yours :) melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.chajonshim.com ------------------------------ From: LAHapkido@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:33:37 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #613 I see alot about what a Soldier needs to know to survive in combat and I can't help but wonder, how many of you on this list have actually served in the Armed Forces? 2nd How many have been in combat? 3rd Did you have to use any of the Hand to Hand training that you recieved? Just wondering. Dan Rogers U.S.Army( Special Forces 1973-1988) ------------------------------ From: JSaportajr@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:33:38 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Olympics When I hear all the human interest stories re the Olympic athletes I feel mostly sadness that someone like Juan Moreno has not gotten any meaningful press. Here is a guy who wins silver medals in two Olympic games and then retires for seven years! Then at age twenty-nine (!) he comes out of retirement in a sport dominated mainly by people ten years younger than he, and he is undefeated at the team trials. This remarkable comeback, his age compared to the age of others in this sport and Juan Moreno's charm and good looks would make him an ideal subject for the kinds of stories they are televising about the athletes. It makes me sad that we don't hear anything about him. Jose' ------------------------------ From: Alanis0811@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:42:40 EDT Subject: the_dojang: TSD weapons Richard, Most schools have bo as the first weapon learned, and some set a certain rank to be achieved before one can train with weapons. Other schools allow you to choose our weapon and begin training as soon as ou join, it is really at the instructor's discretion. There are almost as many forms for each of the weapons as there are weaponless. The first TSD bo form is Sip Sa Bo, or also called Bo il chan. It is fairly simple. Best of luck, Tang Soo, Jennifer Towns 3rd gup red TSD visit our federation's website for more insite and links: Cheezictsd.com ------------------------------ From: Jerry Hinkle Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:37:17 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Tang Soo Do Weapons Forwarded Msg - ------------- >I was thinking of starting Tang Soo Do and was wondering, if anyone could >tell me what weapons (if any) are used and how many forms/patters there are >for them ? I've looked on quite a few web sites, but there doesn't seem to >be much info about weapons used. Reply: Our school (Tang Soo Do) teaches 4 bong (Staff) forms up thru Second Dan, Bong Hyung il bu, ee bu, sam bu, and Bong Hyung sa, and one sword form, Bon Kook. We do other some, not too many, forms with weapons, but they are not required for testing. We use the bong, knife, and sword mainly. Some blackbelt club classes with dan bong, nunchuku, escrima sticks, etc. Jerry. ------------------------------ From: Alanis0811@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:38:16 EDT Subject: Subject: the_dojang: Diabetes in Martial Arts As far as diabetes, I have hypoglcemia, the opposite, low blood sugar, and am a martial artist myself. I have been competing for quite some time, and find that a little OJ before class helps. I am able to overcome it by having a balanced diet, with a lite snack and OJ right before I begin my 1-2 hour workouts. I am a 3rd gup red belt in TSD and have had to deal with it since before my martial arts training. I'm 18 yrs. old, and my doc says I'll probably turn to diabetes when I am older, as it has a high risk in my family for types one and two. Email me @ Alanis0811@aol.com if you have any more q's. Tang Soo, Jennifer Towns ------------------------------ From: Todd Miller Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:49:59 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Dibetes > From: Jerry Hinkle > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:16:09 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: Diabetes in Martial Arts > > All, > I was wondering what were anybody's experiences with Diabetes (either > Type I or II) in Martial Arts. My 11 year old son was diagnosed with > Type I JV Onset diabetes a couple of years ago. I really have to watch his > carb intake, and watch for symptoms of low blood sugar during workouts. > I'd like to hear from both sides, experiences from a purely student's > standpoint, > and from any instructor's. > > Thanks! > Jerry I have had dibetes for 34 years and am an Instructor with students with dibetes. I keep glucose tablets on hand at my dojang at all times along with Gatorade and or juice. Through my experience I have found that if my BS is a little high around 130 - 170 I can work out for 1 hour witout any carbs if lower I have to eat an apple or drink a little juice. As a student I find that if I am unable to comprehend a simple concept or if I am sluggish and feel like tired I need to take in some carbs. Todd ------------------------------ From: "Dunn, Danny J RASA" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:03:18 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE:Tae Kwon Do Books I have not been overly impressed with a lot of the Tae Kwon Do books on the market. Most are pretty basic stuff. A few of the older ones are pretty good, particularly from understanding the history and changes in the Tae Kwon Do. Choi's Enclycopedia is pretty interesting as is his later book, although some of the history has to be looked at very skeptically. Korean Karate by Son and Clark is pretty good. I would also recommend Tae Kwon Do and Advancing in Tae Kwon Do by Richard Chun, who is an extremely nice Grandmaster by the way. Outside of Tae Kwon Do, but in the Korean Arts, Grandmaster Shin, Jae Chul has written a 4 volume set that deals more with personal development, and understanding the essence of Tang Soo Do, entitled Traditional Tang Soo Do, Vol. I, The Essence, Vol. II, the Basics, Vol. III the Dae Ryun, Vol. 4 on Advanced Hyung. These go beyond the normal picture book approach. For historical perspective, Hwang Kee's books are it. I believe that every martial artist should study Go Rin No Sho by Myamoto Mushashi. It is one of the two most important classic books on combat as far as I'm concerned. A literal translation is very good but may be too hard to understand to begin with. There is a good translation , The Book of Five Rings, by Thomas Cleary in print. I would also recommend Stephen Kaufman's The Martial Artist's Book of Five Rings, which is Kaufman's interpretation of the meaning of the original text. The Art of War by Sun Tzu is the other book besides A book of Five Rings that I require my black belts to study. I recommend studying more than one translation, since there are some differences. The translations I prefer are The Art of Strategy by R. L. Wing, and one translation each by Samuel B. Griffith and Thomas Cleary. My $0.02 worth. Danny Dunn ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:57:36 EDT Subject: the_dojang: How Old Is It? In a message dated 9/24/00 2:55:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > How can they claim that TKD is 20 centuries old when the name wasn't coined > until the mid 1950's? This kind of misleading "reporting" hurts TKD's > credibility, IMHO. I understand this point quite well and it is accurate to the letter. It is also quite reasonable, however, to say taekwondo is 20 Centuries old, too, as, to the typical reader who is likely to see this on NBC's Olympic website, it belabors the point to say "Taekwondo is the 40 year-old name for the modern incarnation or synthesis of the martial arts indigenous to Korea for over 2,000 years." As I see it, it is like teaching school children that the earth is "round," or "spherical." This is a very good (and "true") beginners definition even though later we learn that the earth is actually a slightly oblate spheroid, larger around the equator than the poles. SESilz ------------------------------ From: Beungood@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:56:25 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #615 In a message dated 9/25/00 9:42:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Then all trainees will have a 1 minute bout at the end of the 6 hour program of instruction....<<<< They learn all of this in six hours, including the chokes and then go at each other? Does anyone else find this kind of scary? >> Yes! But then again the military is getting into sports injury rehab....... ------------------------------ From: "J. R. West" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:21:04 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Diabetes and HapKiDo Several years ago, while gathering donations for the American Diabetes Association, we found out that my wife was a Type I (insulin dependant) diabetic. In retrospect it took almost 3 years to get her glucose readings under control, and we BOTH suffered from a lack of information from others in the same position, so our "education" was mostly self taught. It seems to me that the trick is to find what works best for you and stick with that and use you diabetes educator and physician to fill in the blanks, rather than dictate the course of your treatment. As far as training is concerned, always keep two things at the school,something to raise the glucose level in a hurry, and something to lower it in a hurry. As long as you plan to be at your child's classes, everything should be fine, but if you are NOT there, someone must be the caregiver in the odd event of some sort of emergency, and they must be EDUCATED. Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.....PS My wife is now wearing a full-time insulin pump, and the result of that over injections is like night and day...just something to investigate...J. R. West www.hapkido.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:41:08 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Thanks! It is digest issues like this one that make me so very proud to be a member of this list. Thanks to everyone for contributing... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #617 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.