From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #718 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 18 Nov 2000 Vol 07 : Num 718 In this issue: the_dojang: WTF / ITF the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #717 the_dojang: Hapkido Seminar the_dojang: Garage Bands the_dojang: Splits the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #717 the_dojang: Mats for martial arts and an open complaint letter from a list member Re: the_dojang: Garage Bands the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1280 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:16:18 PST Subject: the_dojang: WTF / ITF > There has been much "talk" on web recently about a merger (again) between > the ITF and "WTF" (I put the "" around WTF because I think these folks mean > between the ITF and Kukki related groups. What are some of the opinions of > members of this list? > > Could a merger work? > What form would it take? Like the AAU's TKD pgm? > What about rank holders? (ITF doesn't certify masters until 7th Dan. > Kukkiwon does it at 4th or 5th Dan?) Isn't that just because a WTF 4th Dan is equivalent to an ITF 7th Dan? :) I'm kidding!!! I'm kidding... :) So in many (most) styles a Master is defined as a Dan tester. Can't an ITF 6th Dan promote someone to an ITF 1st Dan? Just curious... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: ConcordTKD@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:51:56 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #717 There has been much "talk" on web recently about a merger (again) between the ITF and "WTF" (I put the "" around WTF because I think these folks mean between the ITF and Kukki related groups. What are some of the opinions of members of this list? Could a merger work? What form would it take? How would sparring change for both groups? What about rank holders? (ITF doesn't certify masters until 7th Dan. Kukkiwon does it at 4th or 5th Dan?) Patterns? Not sure what else to add. The WTF will slowly fall apart over time and the ITF will gain over time. There will be no merger just one acclimating to the other. The fall out after the what happen in Sydney just seam to be accelerating the process. John ------------------------------ From: "hununpa" Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:32 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido Seminar Attention! This is a shameless plug. Being a Sun Moo Kwan Gup under Master James Allison and a new USKMAF school head (Moja Kwan Tang Soo Do), I might have a slanted opinion, but if you practice the Korean martial arts and can get to Jackson, Mississippi in February, I believe you'll enjoy a weekend of learning and southern hospitality. If you can stand some joint manipulations and break-falls, even us Tang Soo Do/Tae Kwon Do players can enhance our skills. Master Hodder ( a Tae Kwon Do 7th Dan) presented an excellent session on TKD techniques that can be executed in CLOSE range at the last seminar. Basically, a group of Master Instructors with 20 plus years of experience each, getting together to help you become a better martial artist. See you there :-) Oh, its www.hapkido.com for more info... Train with Jung Do in your hearts The rest is commentary, Charles Richards Moja Kwan TSD ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "hununpa" Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:07:43 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Garage Bands In an effort to pick-up the chatter... On the anniversary of MDK (November 13th) I officially started teaching Tang Soo Do after a pause to change careers, buy our first home, and father my firstborn (son that is). During that period I did a lot of research, and continued my training in the korean martial arts. My first revelation is that my wife and I should start our own organization, Moja Kwan. I can truly say nothing is more rewarding than having your family enjoy the martial arts with you! Here's my question for the list.... Currently, I have 5 students training in my garage (20x20). Being part of the Atlanta Metro Area, I am saturated with commercial schools, even our little town of 3,400 has 4 schools within a 6 mile radius of my home. I have considered some local churches, but the majority of them have beautiful gyms and exercise rooms, for churchwide activities only, and of course the mantra that for rent activities must yield to church functions when there is a scheduling conflict. Research of fitness centers and YMCA's in the area has been about the same. Based on your experiences or opinions which option would you pursue and why? A. status quo. A heart felt garage dojang, adding times and days as needed to handle a max of 20-25 students, but with no overhead. B. Slow growth. Sub-lease space/time from a nearby traditional Hapkido School if available. C. Modest expansion. Increase efforts to find a club/gym to sub-lease space. D. Financial risk. Negotiate a lease (about $12-$18/sf/yr) for 800 to 1200 SF store front with visibilty and driveby traffic. Look forward to any comments including direct emails ( mojakwan@yahoo.com ). Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards Moja Kwan TSD _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ From: "hununpa" Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:17:52 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Splits OK, if you've seen Tom Kurz's information, you know that everyone should be able to do the full splits, but typically the weakness in the abs keeps you from "sitting up straight". His program focusses on balancing the quad/ham muscles and increasing ab/lower back muscles to be able to hold the splits. I rate the rear to the wall gravity stretch and partner stretches as excellent. Try also the standing pnf partner stretches in the "side kick" position. Keep working the abs and lower back. In the absence of a partner, an old white belt can be used to help you hold your stretch... Good Luck, Charles Richards Moja Kwan TSD _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ From: YMCATKD@aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:14:18 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #717 Here is a question for those instructors that teach more than one art and or many martial arts subjects....... How do you divide time between the two arts? How do you arrange time in class for kicking and punching, self defense, weapons, one step sparring, sparring etc etc? I teach TKD and Kung Jung Mu Sool which is very similar to Kuk Sool Won.....things are going well however I could always use some imput that could help me organise things better. Any thoughts would be appreciated, Andy ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 05:08:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Mats for martial arts and an open complaint letter from a list member Martial Arts topic: anyone here have a good source for mats ? I have a good source in Canada that is generally as good and cheaper than U.S. companies, re: Marathon mats. Hit me privately or publicly for info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 7:24:01 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: Garage Bands > On the anniversary of MDK (November 13th) I officially ... Wouldn't that be November 9th? The MDK was formed on November 9, 1945. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 7:28:03 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #718 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.