From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #733 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 26 Nov 2000 Vol 07 : Num 733 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #732 the_dojang: re: enemy list memeber the_dojang: Re: Phiippines tour and email names Re: the_dojang: Re: Phiippines tour and email names the_dojang: ITF / WTF the_dojang: 9th Dan the_dojang: Fw: kuk sool books the_dojang: 9th to 10th Dan the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beungood@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 23:17:46 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #732 In a message dated 11/25/00 7:09:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > Every Korean > teacher I have had has said 9th dan is the highest in Korean martial > arts. The question I have is why are there Koreans and non-Koreans that > claim 10th dan ranking? Is this rank higher than "Supreme Grandmaster"? ------------------------------ From: Migukyong@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:56:16 EST Subject: the_dojang: re: enemy list memeber let me guess who this may be under kukkitaekwondo...hmmm maybe the infamous tkd special investigation committee? hehe...Ray, hate to say it, but no matter how old some people become in age, they will never ever grow up :) frank ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:38:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Phiippines tour and email names Mr. Ray Terry noted: Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:28:27 PST Subject: the_dojang: just a heads-up Just a heads-up that the former member, now avowed enemy, of our little discussion forum here is currently hiding behind the email name "KukkiTaekwondo" (among others) to distribute his spam about our forum. Be forewarned... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com> Response: Sorry to hear the above. I was hoping the particular individual would forgive and forget. Certainly, I have tried to put my disagreement with him behind me. My priest told me to forgive him and let only the good memories of him stay in my heart and mind (Ken blows his nose in a clean hankerchief while gently sobbing). In fact, until this email about his secret clandestine and surreptitious activities , I had forgotten about him. Shows you how important he is in my life, right ? I thought he was Blue Wave or Kick Myself, or some other email name ? However, recall that I advised you that he would try a Trojan Horse technique. Perhaps he should call himself Trojans, like that famous condom manufacturer ? Fortunately when you register for your forum you do not require members to list all your private details about yourself. Moreover, you do not have your minions following up with contacting you to confirm your submitted forum membership facts--as experienced in that forum. Is he down to asking your waist size now before he admits you to his forum ? Incidentally, I take a size 11 shoe. Big enough for certain derrieres. Well, enough on that subject and shall we move on to more important issues ? Digressing. Have confirmed the trip to Cebu City, PI in January. Family in laws are contacting various Filipino Martial Arts instructors on my behalf, re:Doce Pares and Balintawak Systems of Arnis/Escrima. Cheers, McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 8:14:58 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: Phiippines tour and email names > Digressing. Have confirmed the trip to Cebu City, PI in January. Family > in laws are contacting various Filipino Martial Arts instructors on my > behalf, re:Doce Pares and Balintawak Systems of Arnis/Escrima. You might check out my good friend, the 80+ year old President of Doce Pares Eskrima, Cacoy C. Canete (~ over the n). He is simply amazing... You'll find him over at 81A C-Padilla St. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 8:33:58 PST Subject: the_dojang: ITF / WTF I understand that the ITF has made at least three attempts to join with the WTF. In one, circa 1985, three high ranking ITF masters/reps were sent to the WTF, but these three masters just switched over to the WTF causing Major General Choi to openly fire them from the ITF. Who were these three ITF Masters? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 9:44:07 PST Subject: the_dojang: 9th Dan David said: > At one point there were 11th and 12th Dans in the older Japanese arts > which used the kyu/Dan system. I recall that Dr. Kano was promoted to Judo 12th Dan after his death. What other 11th and 12th Dans are there in the Japanese arts? Note: I previously mentioned my friend, Eskrima's Cacoy Canete, who is a 12th Degree (the term Dan is not used) Red Belt in Doce Pares. But that is obviously not a Japanese system. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Carmelo Gauci" Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:18:35 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Fw: kuk sool books >Dear Everybody, > I would like to know if there are any books on kuk sool on the market. >It sounds like a very interesting art and I would like to read about it. >Unfortunately to my knowledge Kuk sool is non-existant in our small country. > >One more question ... ... and pardon my ignorance ( naive maybe?) ... what >is meant by " my 2 cents " ? > >Khamsa Hamnida, > >Carmelo Gauci. > ------------------------------ From: Tom McNamara Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:34:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: 9th to 10th Dan My understanding of a 10th Dan is that it is awarded to the 9th Dan upon their passing as a show of respect and devotion to the art of TKD. I will inquire with my Grand Master Il Kwon Kim. (temporary first Dan)Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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