From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #751 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 5 Dec 2000 Vol 07 : Num 751 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Breathing help the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #750 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #750 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #750 the_dojang: Scary thing happened last night the_dojang: Re: Titles and TKD techniques used/not used Re: the_dojang: Re: Titles and TKD techniques used/not used the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rudolph George-P27574 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:28:33 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Breathing help <*> <*>From: Dave Weller <*>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:57:11 -0600 <*>Subject: the_dojang: Re: Help in breathing <*> <*> "Carmelo Gauci" Posted the <*>following>Subject: <*>the_dojang: help me breathe <*>>Having seen some postings on breathing, I thought I might <*>ask for some <*>>advice here. <*>>I have a tendancy to hold my breathing while doing a kick <*>or a combination <*>>of kicks, especially during sparring, <*>>and kicking the bag. I know it is not right bec it just <*>doesn't feel right, <*>>it also prevents me from properly using the <*>>'ki hap', the problems is that I cannot seem to avoid this <*>unless I totally <*>>concentrate on the breathing, which ends up <*>>leaving my kicking and stepping down the other end of the <*>road ie: close to <*>>crap. <*>>Are there some breathing exercises that one could do or <*>maybe some sort of <*>>other technique that could help me solve this? <*>>Best regards <*>>Carmelo Gauci Look at it this way: When you drive a car, you don't think of looking, stepping on the gas, the brake, steering, etc., as separate activities--so it is with techniques and breathing. Thay aren't separate things. If you're having problems relaxing and breathing at the proper times, by all means focus on that until you get it right, and don't worry about what the technique looks like at that particular moment--think long-term development. (While training in the dojang or practicing at home are definitely the *safest* places to discover and work on weaknesses, in preference to on the street.) Since you can do the techniques, now think of breathing as adding proper breathing to each technique. With practice, you will be able to execute *and* breathe. ------------------------------ From: "richard hackworth" Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:34:51 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #750 No, I am not a member of the USTU. I practice the martial art form of Taekwondo and see no need to contribute to the USTU legal defense fund (membership fees) or pay for Korean's golf vacations to Hawaii and whatever else the USTU spends their money on. I was just congratulating them on the outstanding success of the US Team. With only 4 competitors at the Olympic games they still managed to bring home gold for the USA. What a Great job! Best Regards to Sang and the boys. ------------------------------ From: "donna galster" Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 13:41:36 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #750 >From: Dave Weller >Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:57:11 -0600 >Subject: the_dojang: Re: Help in breathing > > "Carmelo Gauci" Posted the following>Subject: >the_dojang: help me breathe > >Having seen some postings on breathing, I thought I might ask for some > >advice here. >Carmelo, >I am sure you will get many responses on to your question, and mine >is from a students perspective as I am not an instructor. I experienced >the same difficulty early in my training, and from watching the "newbies" >it seems to be very common. One thing that might assist during kicking is >to Ki-hap(or expel all your air silently) on _every_ technique, My >instructor >put it to me this way..."if you breathe out, you MUST breathe in, or you'll >pass out". Other students may look askance at you for "huffing & puffing" >but the benefits outweigh the odd looks. It might also be helpful to >engage in some outside the class cardiovascular exercise (jump rope, run, >chase your girlfriend, etc..) to build up your body's ability to accept >oxygen. It might also help to do a some meditative breathing (like qi gong, >or whatever) regularly, but especially before class as this (at least for >me) >opens up the lungs and makes it much easier to breathe. >Not sure what level you are at, but eventually,if you work at it, breathing >will become as natural as, well, breathing...... >Hope this helps, > >dave weller student wtf tkd Speaking of breathing, have some wondered how come you cannot breathe as well during cardio vascular excersise? Huff and puff and cannot seem to get a deep breath in? Has it ever occured to you that hanging around smokers does this to you? Something I found out yesterday. A non-smoker can spend 2 hours in a smokey room and breath in the equivalent of 4 cigarettes. Kinda makes me sick. I have lived around smokers all of my life. My lungs are probally as black as theirs. Donna _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "richard hackworth" Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 14:41:12 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #750 If JP wants to call his system Combat Hapkido that's up to him. He makes no special claims about it other than it is a scientific system of self defense based on the principals of Hapkido. Most of the negative comments about it are from people who are simply jealous of his success and popularity. What is wrong with wanting to provide a practical martial arts oriented self defense program that men, women or children of any age or ability can learn? It is a shame that the martial arts is filled with so many egos that you can measure your success by the number of instructors who talk bad about you. ------------------------------ From: "Mac" Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 13:54:11 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Scary thing happened last night I don't usually remember what I dream about, but I know I was dreaming about something completely unrelated to fighting or MA, and all of a sudden I had an overwhelming feeling someone came up behind me and grabbed both my hands. I just reacted, stepping slightly back and drawing both hands/arms forward to break the grip, and instantly performed a back-fist over my left shoulder. This woke me up - whacking the pillow just next to my head. The scary part was..... my beautiful lovely wife sleeps on my left side (and yesterday was our 17th wedding anniversary). Good thing I missed her, if I would have waken her up with a back-fist up side the head she would have probably kicked my ass. ;-) Normally, I even subconsciously know she sleeps on my left, and may only react to someone walking up on my right (beside the bed). My family members know to wake me up from a distance. This was the first time I can remember attacking to my left, but it was very close to me as if someone was right behind me. Weird things happen. ------------------------------ From: "Shaun M. Fortune" Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 14:43:41 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Titles and TKD techniques used/not used I am responding to two posts from the previous issue. >Subject: the_dojang: Good day to die * * * snip * * * >"Titles are meant as a means of distinguishing achievement and showing >respect. Warriors need neither. We simply are. The most important thing is >that we act impeccably, from the power within. Each action we perform is >the best we can do therefore we live without regrets and the pomp and >circumstance that dictate many people's paths. The art is not the man, the >man is the art. The essence of the art is the spirit. It is the kindred >spirit of the warrior that manifest itself between men. Evident without the >trappings or structure of titles or trophies. It is this spirit I sensed in >you. Thus for you as for all warriors everyday is a good day to die." Very cool. This kind of brings up a point that I have discussed with some of the black belts in my school but I'm not certain I have ever come up with a completely satisfactory answer. What is the point of going up in rank once you reach black belt? There is, of course, the very obvious learning of one new form which is all I have at my rank in taekwondo. (Haven't reached dan rank in hapkido yet.) But besides that, what is the real reason? Is it prestige? Is it the title of master, grandmaster, whatever? I'd be interested to know the thoughts of the people on the list. Feel free to reply on- or off-list. >------------------------------ >From: ConcordTKD@aol.com * * * snip * * * >be all to end all, but it seems Combat Hapkido blends well with my TKD >training adding take-downs, joint-locks, and throws to my kicking and >punching skills helping me to become a well rounded artist." > >You should be learning those skills in your TKD trainning. Doesn't your >school practice these in class? > >J. Murphy >A-3-756 ITF TKD Not all taekwondo styles teach these types of techniques. I know in our school we do a VERY limited amount of takedowns, no joint locks and no throws, at least not as a requirement for testing. What happens on any given class night is up to the instructor in charge that night. :) (All of the following comments apply specifically to our local school and not to our school as a whole. I cannot comment on everyone at our main school or the other branches.) A lot of the people in our taekwondo classes are children or people who do not want to go through the pain of hapkido training, which we offer in our school for those who are interested in the above mentioned techniques. They seem to do just fine with the kicks, punches and blocks. I find that the self-defense training we do in taekwondo has been adequate for our students. In the twelve years our school has been around, I can count on one hand the number of students that have even had to defend themselves from an attacker (or attackers). You may want to note that we live in small town Iowa which may have an impact on the necessity for self-defense, but I digress... Those attacker(s) were dispatched with white and yellow belt kicks, performed very accurately, with the end result of no permanent damage to anyone. Isn't that what self defense is all about? IMHO, Shaun M. Fortune Taekwondo/hapkido _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 15:35:57 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: Titles and TKD techniques used/not used > Very cool. This kind of brings up a point that I have discussed with some > of the black belts in my school but I'm not certain I have ever come up with > a completely satisfactory answer. What is the point of going up in rank > once you reach black belt? Probably goes back to the question of what a black belt (i.e. Il Dan) means. Is it the end, or simply the beginning? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 15:36:46 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #751 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! 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