From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #773 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 14 Dec 2000 Vol 07 : Num 773 In this issue: the_dojang: Happy Birthday Jeremy the_dojang: Kyuk Too Ki the_dojang: Kyuk Too Ki the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #772 the_dojang: Kyuk Too Ki the_dojang: RE: Moo Yea Do the_dojang: More multiple opponent stuff the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #772 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. R. West" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:55:26 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Happy Birthday Jeremy Congratulations on surviving to your 30th....You are now as old as some of my wrinkles....J. R. West ------------------------------ From: "Anthony or Clare Boyd" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:13:05 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: Kyuk Too Ki Kyuk Too Ki is one name for kickboxing here in Korea. It is usually referred to as "street fighting" and has a reputation of being studied by thugs, gangsters and other suspect ruffians. (Of course, the average Korean has a lower opinion of martial artists than westerners do.) Kyuk Too Ki students practice in similar fashion to Muay Thai but without the religious and ceremonial aspects. Training is tough and demanding. My first HKD instructor also taught this style so I got to see a fair bit of their practices. Part of the black belt test in that school's Kyuk Too Ki program was to fight continuously for 15 minutes against 3, dan ranked, hapkido-in one at a time, five minutes (or until submission) at a time. It was an intense sight. In practices, the students concentrated on knee and elbow strikes as well as the usual array of low, middle and high kicks. Emphasis was placed mainly on close range fighting and cardiovascular endurance. Tolerance of pain was also highly stressed. Fellow list member Andrew Pratt also trains in a gym peopled with kickboxers but I cannot remember at this instant whether they are training in Kyuk Too Ki or "real" Muay Thai. Andrew? I hope this helps somewhat. Basically, the style is nothing more than kickboxing. ------------------------------ From: "Geoff J. Booth" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:34:10 +1100 Subject: the_dojang: Kyuk Too Ki Is taught in Korea as a style of Kickboxing. Regards Geoff International Hapkido Alliance Australia Hapkido Group http://hapkido.netro.com.au "The art is in the person, all we have to do is bring it out" ------------------------------ From: "richard hackworth" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:42:54 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #772 About Jeremy's post on "Official" Hapkido. Well put. Richard Hackworth ------------------------------ From: Andrew Pratt Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:50:38 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: Kyuk Too Ki Dear all, Kyuk Too Ki is kick boxing. The most popular version is Thai boxing. The Koreans would seem to have formulised the curriculum somewhat and introduced belts and doboks(!). Curiously, (taking note of the Bruce Sim's unrelated post mentioning a World Aikido Federation) my founder and head of Korea Aikikai, Yun Ick-ahm was a kick boxing champion in his weight in his youth. He has the pictures on the wall and maybe the belt as well. The Aikido club shares a dojang with the Muay Thai boys and it makes an interesting contrast in styles, philosophy, etc. There is a bit more at: http://www.cuk.ac.kr/~rupert/kaikikai.html http://www.aikido.co.kr/ Andrew ------------------------------ From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:51:16 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Moo Yea Do If you go back to some of the earlier UFC's, maybe 6 through 10, you'll see a fighter by the name of Mark Hall. He claimed to practice the art of "Moo Yea Do". Not a lot of background information was given about the art...I assumed that it was a modern system based on Korean Martial Arts. Evidently, it also incorporated some boxing, Muay Thai, and groundfighting...maybe BJJ...again, not sure. Unfortunately, we never got to see much of this "art". Hall wasn't much of a fighter, and he wasn't overly impressive in his few wins. To his credit, he got in the ring and tried. Can't begrudge him for that. More recently Hall has become a promoter of NHB fighting events. The event that he currently promotes is called the 'Cobra Challenge'. If you do an internet search you may find a website...maybe Hall can answer questions about Moo Yea Do if they list an e-mail address. Hall also had a run-in with Ken Shamrock earlier this year. According to sources, Hall got in Shamrock's face at a NHB fighting event...Shamrock quickly ended the "encounter" by headbutting Hall into next week...leaving Hall with a bloodied face and an injured neck. Supposedly, charges were filed against Shamrock, but I never heard the outcome. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:58:19 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: More multiple opponent stuff Going back to the issue of multiple opponents...I stopped by Barnes & Noble today and looked over the latest issue of the 'Journal of Asian Martial Arts'. It contained a very in-depth article by a Hapkido exponent regarding various defenses against multiple opponents. I'll reserve judgment, and just pass the info along. Check it out if you're local bookstore carries 'JAMA'. You may find it of interest. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: foxdragon@cuttingedge.net Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:01:43 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #772 From: RumNCoke220@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:18:01 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Chuck Norris Gary: I'm definitely no history buff, but in Chuck Norris' book "The Secret Power Within," Norris refers to his instructor as Mr. Shin. By the way, that's a pretty good book. I don't read many books about or by martial artists because a lot of it becomes "my style is the best because..." or it's just a lot of self-congratulatory, I'm a big tough guy garbage. This book has none of that. It's all about the lessons we can learn about life through the martial arts. Not a single punch, kick or throw in the whole book. I don't know if I really learned a lot from it, but it's a good peaceful, relaxing, and somewhat mind-opening read. J.T. Hey!! I read that book too. And also his second book on the subject. The thing is, how has he changed since these books he has written? I love Chuck Norris. He is my Idol, but I think it is time to put away Idol's and start my own life to lead. My own path, my own ideas. I may not agree that is all discussed on here, but these are my own ideas. Not something that has been passed down to me. Some ideas I will keep. Others, throw away in the trash. They are not good. To some, I am not respectful. I am sorry if you think that way. If you really knew me, you would automatically know what I am and like me. I just cannot be who every expects of me anymore. I have to be what I think is the proper way. It is the only way I can live with myself. By the way, I love the addy. But, for me, it is BrandyNCoke. Donna ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:34:54 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #773 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.