From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #775 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 15 Dec 2000 Vol 07 : Num 775 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: What is the Korean MA style of Kyuk Too Ki? the_dojang: Halting the Hapkido Conflict the_dojang: Hapkido & Multiple attackers the_dojang: Re: Kung Jung Mu Sool the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:38:10 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: What is the Korean MA style of Kyuk Too Ki? In 1980, I saw a professional Kyuktugi match in Seoul, Korea. We knew one of the fighters, a TKD blackbelt who fought the final match of the night in the heavyweight division. We loved it, it was a great show, kind of a cross between Taekwondo and professional wrestling, complete with very dramatic matches and moves like guys being thrown against the ropes and when they 'bounced' off, caught with side kicks. Six years later, when I was studying Hapkido in Seoul, I asked about Kyuktugi and was told there was a big scandal about it when it turned out it was fake; all the matches were scripted. This in interesting in light of the fact many of the matches were between Koreans and Americans, and in out friend's match, he was defeated by an American fighter. Maybe they were setting up a big rematch. That's all I know about what was called kyuktugi in Korea in the 80s. Perhaps it has nothing to do with the subject of your video. What was the video like? Jesse From: "David Salt" > I stumbled upon a video tape of a dojo in Korea demostrating "Kyuk Too Ki". ------------------------------ From: "Patrick L" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:27:51 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Halting the Hapkido Conflict Mr. Terry, >Ok guys, and others. The time is now to take this offline.< I will bow to your desire that we drop this current thread, but I respectfully submit that you were premature. Getting in the Way, Patrick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Patrick L" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:48:45 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido & Multiple attackers Dear Mr. Stovall, >...'Journal of Asian Martial Arts'.... It contained a very in-depth article >by a Hapkido exponent regarding various defenses against multiple >opponents. I'll reserve judgment, and just pass the info along.< Thanx for the heads up. As an aside on the issue of multiple attackers, the choice is simple, but rarely identified. If forced, you face the situation trained ... or untrained - choose. Getting in the Way, Patrick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: RumNCoke220@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:04:51 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Kung Jung Mu Sool Daniel: A high ranking Kuk Sool master, Master Yang (not sure about the rest of his name), broke away from the World Kuk Sool Association to run his own school his own way. It's kuk sool with a different name. In kuk sool, we were always taught that kung jung mu sool (royal court martial arts) is one of the three branches that comprises kuk sool today. People will always say what they will say about those who break away from their organization, but I hear (I've never seen him or his students in person) that he and his students are high quality. I've also heard of KJMS practitioners who are not related to Master Yang, but I don't know anything about this group. J.T. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:16:53 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #775 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.