From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #17 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 9 Jan 2001 Vol 08 : Num 017 In this issue: Re: the_dojang: RE: Matt Furey's Combat Conditioning the_dojang: Books the_dojang: Re: Billy Jack the_dojang: Re: Wood floor the_dojang: Re: Puzzle mats? the_dojang: Pak the_dojang: Teachers the_dojang: re: Shaun's Opinion question the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~999 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 19:21:55 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: RE: Matt Furey's Combat Conditioning > The information is great, and the hindu squats have become a major part of > my routines. The entire thing is nothing but bodyweight exercises, but the > exercises shown are varied and I picked up a few exercises I had never seen > before. The "core" exercises are hindu squats, hindu pushups, and bridging. Can you describe a hindu squat and a hindu pushup? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: CMPorter@webtv.net (Chris Porter) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:15:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Books Hello all, I hope everyone had a safe and Happy New Year, I know I gained way to much weight, I guess I should have only eaten 10lbs of chocolate instead of 20. I received the book Han Mu Do and the two videos that go with it as a gift and wanted to pass on that these are great. They are well put together, easy to follow and a joy to watch. I recommend them and will be purchasing more of Dr. Kimm's books. I also am borrowing Tang Soo Do by Hwang Kee and am interested in buying it iff anyone knows where I can get one, also in the beginning of the book it mentions that this is one of 5 volumes does anyone know if the others are still available? Any info would be a great help. Yours in the arts,Chris. ------------------------------ From: Powrscrol@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:47:03 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Billy Jack In a message dated 1/6/01 8:43:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Recall when 'Billy Jack' ran for President? >> http://www.billyjack.com ------------------------------ From: Piotr Bernat Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:35:10 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Wood floor > I've seen alot of posts about mats as a flooring system... I was > wondering about opinions on wood floors. This is what my school has. > Perhaps I'm just lucky, and didn't even know it! :-) > > Mary Hi Mary, it really depends... I saw different wood floors. It is what is UNDER this floor that matters. There are some schools I saw using a certain elatic material under the wood, or even a whole system to protect the athletes` feet. But I also know some schools with a very hard wooden floor (probabli direct on concrete). I personally prefer the plastic type floors we have in newer gyms. But I must also admit that mats would be my first choice... Regards - -- Piotr Bernat dantaekwondo@lublin.home.pl http://www.taekwondo.prv.pl ------------------------------ From: "Daniel G." Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 03:32:32 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Puzzle mats? Hi Greg, I've practiced on both. You didn't mention which art you teach. I'll just give you the ol' good news/bad news. The good news: it's a lot easier to move around & pivot your supporting leg on puzzle mats. This is because the vinyl mats have a tendency to stick to bare feet. So if you're doing TKD, & your students don't knock each other onto the floor too often, this is a perfect choice. I've never heard of anyone jamming their toes on puzzle mats. Just make sure you put them together snugly & you should be fine. Anyway, the above mentioned pro leads to the following con: The bad news: if you're doing a throwing art, & you mess up your fall, the puzzle mats, being harder, will have you feeling it a lot more than you would with a vinyl mat. Definitely not for beginners. Provides a nice challenge for the more advanced, i.e., fall right or else, but you have to go a lot easier on a new technique. HTH, ~Daniel, way behind the list due to a moody computer, but slowly catching up :) > >From: Gregory Giddins >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:50:41 -0700 >Subject: the_dojang: Puzzle mats? > >Hi all, Happy New Year/Millenum. > >Does anyone have an opinion on puzzle mats? I see alot of companies >selling >them, is anyone using them in their dojang? If so, for how long? And for >what uses? And how are they holding up? > >I looked up some old issues of the_dojang and just found a couple >references >to them, one being students getting jammed toes from the seams. Anyone >else >encounter that? > >They sure seem like a great option, being so much more inexpensive than >vinyl covered mats. I know all you richie-rich owners like the real ones >:), but for us little guys are puzzle mats worth buying for every-day >training? Or is it like using a washcloth as a beach towel? > > >Greg Giddins >mailto://gregoryg@loronix.com >"You are never given a dream without also being given the power >to make it true." >- - Richard Bach > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:27:28 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Pak Master Burdick writes: > All I know for sure though, is that GM Pak was a great > technician. I've interviewed several of Pak's students, but his history > is very difficult to sort out. Rudy Timmerman was Pak's student in > Canada for a long time. Rudy, can you help us out here? What did you > know of GM Pak's history? Dear Master Burdick: I had been following that tread since I first noticed the name Pak; however, the GM used a variety of ways to spell his name, and I was not sure if you were speaking of the same man. I decided to lurk until I learned more. Now I have, I can perhaps contribute something. Please mail me at kwanjang@nkmaa.ca, and I'll get back to you on this. Sincerely, Rudy ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:51:07 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Teachers Shaun Fortune writes: > I have a question for the list members. How would you feel about someone > teaching martial arts who had never been in a fight? In my younger years, I would look for a fight just to practice techniques in a more realistic way. In those days, I also did not use mats because "there are no mats on the street". I even went as far as fighting a golden gloves boxer in an exhibition bout. Did any of this make me a better Instructor? I would say that I did not become an Instructor worth paying dues to until I grew out of that phase of my life. I think I was arrogant, and IMHO an arrogant teacher has a problem relating to the needs of his students. Still, I must admit that the additional first hand knowledge gave me an edge when it came to teaching self-defense techniques. For one example, I learned the importance of clinching from the boxer, and I still pass this knowledge on to my students. There are many more similar examples. Funny thing I did notice though. I have fought one on one, one on two, and even one on three a few times, no matter how much I tried I could never remember what I did in the fight. It was like I had not been there. In my view, I had to learn to become a teacher (it took me twenty years after earning Black Belt) before I could effectively relay the valuable information I learned first hand. Had I not become a teacher, all this additional knowledge would not have done anyone but myself any good. If you ask what did I get out of the experiences. I now sport a man made dimple (about 4" long) on my cheek courtesy of a broken beer bottle and, although I was the last man standing in that rumble, I was lucky to not have had more serious injuries. It was not worth it, and I do believe I might have been able to talk my way out of many of these scuffles. In the final analysis, no amount of knowledge can be fully utilized unless the user has the heart to be in the thick of things. Without heart, your best option is to run (and this may be the best advise at any time). In addition, repetition, repetition, and more repetition is essential. Sincerely, Rudy National Korean Martial Arts Association ------------------------------ From: Martin Price Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:50:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: re: Shaun's Opinion question Shaun, Grandmaster Hyeon Kon Lee the owner and head instructor of my Dojong was undefeated Asian TKD champion 5 years running, yet many of the instructors at my Dojong have never fought full contact, no protective equipment, or in the street (WTF tournaments yes), so in regards to taking TKD from an instructor who has never fought it depends upon your definition of "never fought". My personal opinion is that unless you are learning full contact (with protective equipment) you are missing out on how to use the full potential of what you are learning. In the same breath I will say that an instructor that has never fought in full contact (with protective equipment) tournaments WTF, USTU as examples, will not be able to prepare you to reach your full potential for a tournament or the street. Do not get me wrong, I am not saying that there are not good instructors out there that have never fought, what I am saying is how can you teach what you have never done. They can teach style and form extremely well, but how can they teach the needed skills for tournament/street fighting. They do not know strategy, how it feels to take a punch or kick, how to counter a real punch or kick, how to truely deliver a punch or kick to another person. In the nutshell what I am saying is in my opinion you will be far better prepared for defending yourself being taught by someone who has applied their skills in tournaments or on the street than someone who has never fought. One thing I have found interesting though is that since I have been taking TKD the confidence and self control I have now have kept me out of street fights. The one time I may have been justified in taking a guy out I simply blocked or slipped his punches, put my finger on the tip of his nose and told him to get back in his car and leave, which he did. This was far better than taking him out in front of his wife and two small children. Yours in TKD Martin a Gray Bearded One ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 7:27:16 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #17 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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