From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #28 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 13 Jan 2001 Vol 08 : Num 028 In this issue: the_dojang: Mudo vs. Karate the_dojang: review, RKD video tape the_dojang: Donna's Comments the_dojang: Re: Background Checks the_dojang: Checks the_dojang: WTF /USTU Ref/ Comp Sanctioned Event the_dojang: offline the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~999 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Richards Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:01:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Mudo vs. Karate <> Yes, tell them you teach "traditional" martial arts and try to apply your art to all of life (Tao) and not just "fighting" (IMVHO) <> OK, here's were some people will get mad at me, so be it. It would be worse to teach competative or fad focussed martial techniques and imply it had any thing to do with Mudo. Mudo has embeded within it techniques (musul), it's up to the individual player to interpret it as "self defense" and/or self development. With a Mudo focus neither are exclusive. As to false advertising, in this country martial art and Karate are pretty generic terms that are used by laymen interchangeably (not to mention the Korean artists that have a Karate Neon sign over their dojang). It seems like you are saying you teach Mudo and you ARE teaching Mudo...I can't see any false advertising in that. Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards Moja Kwan TSD __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:07:45 PST Subject: the_dojang: review, RKD video tape Just a quick review of the last of the video tapes presented by and featuring the late Mangisursuro Mike Inay and produced by Dieter Knuttel's Abanico Video Productions in Germany (http://www.abanico.de). The Reactive Knife Defense (RKD) videotape is 55 mins long. In it Mike Inay covers the all the basic elements that were taught in the 2-day RKD seminars with Suro Inay. The RKD program was originally developed for law enforcement officers. These techniques have been taught to and used by police agencies throughout the US and have proven to be very effective for edged weapon defense. The program is designed to give the participant in-depth hands-on experience with the principles and concepts of dealing with edged weapons and the problems they present. It covers different drills and exercises designed to develop spontaneity in reacting to an unexpected attack. Note, this is NOT a knife fighting video. It is a video that addresses the most likely knife encounter, one in which you are unarmed and you are suddenly and unexpectedly attacked by someone with an edged weapon. This program builds upon one's normal reactions. It is not a system that requires long years of study to master. It is basic, yet effective. It starts with the first rule of a knife encounter... You WILL get cut! Your job is to survive the encounter. The video begins by introducing the ways a knife might be gripped, the types of wounds that they inflict, basic stances that might be used, etc. The concept of the 'reactionary gap' is presented. Action is faster than reaction and the distance needed to react properly is termed the reactionary gap. We recommend a -minimum- of 10 ft. plus the weapon length for those with minimal martial arts training. But it also shows through a live demonstration of the Tueller Drill just how quickly (~2 seconds) an attacker can cover 21 ft. and reach you with a contact/edged weapon. The implication is that a LEO with an holstered sidearm will need a minimum of 21 ft. to give them the minimum time to respond properly to an sudden attack. The angles of attack are taught (6 for RKD) and then the proper way to reactively block an attack is shown. The basic concept is closest hand, palm down block, then cover & clear to a transition point. A wide variety of instructional drills are clearly described and shown so that one can easily practice these techniques (with some training partners). After only a few hours one can fairly easily learn this material. It really is that simple to learn. Straight forward and basic. Yet it shows how to easily develop your normal reactions so that you will hopefully survive a surprise knife attack. Obtain this video by contacting Jason Inay at jdinay@hotmail.com or Dieter Knuttel at dk@abanico.de. Respectfully submitted, Ray Terry Suro, we miss you... ------------------------------ From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:20:20 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Donna's Comments Donna, Good post, and I can't take too much issue with your personal approach. If you're getting good results...kudos to you. I do have a question about one comment. <> What "effect" is being lessened if your body is responding to the exercises? "Getting used to them" is precisely the effect you're looking for. This is a sign that you're getting stronger and more powerful...that's why you do the movements to begin with. Am I missing something? There's a very simple remedy to prevent the exercises from becoming too easy...you increase the weight you're using. I hope I didn't leave the impression that I was promoting these three movements as some sort of panacea. Hardly the case. There are MANY more compound movements besides the ones I mentioned...those three are just probably the easiest to learn, IMHO. Find what works for you. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:12:34 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Background Checks << Any of you instructors out there (or your teachers for the students) that do background checks on a potential student prior to beginning instruction? Pros? Cons? with that experience. >> Would love to but have no idea as to how to do it. Like do they write alot of bad checks ... what is their credit like ... do they have a history of violence in their life .... ? Illona ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:22:15 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Checks Ray writes: > Any of you instructors out there (or your teachers for the students) that do > background checks on a potential student prior to beginning instruction? About all we can do here (Canada) is have an in depth interview with a potential student. After that, I use my "gut feeling" and go with it. It would be very difficult to justify (or obtain) detailed information on someone without just cause. How does this work in the US? Sincerely, Rudy National Korean Martial Arts Association ------------------------------ From: Sugarftkd@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:18:27 EST Subject: the_dojang: WTF /USTU Ref/ Comp Sanctioned Event Please Size, Print, Distribute and Post ....Thank you WTF/ USTU Referees and Competitors Special Notice Something NEW for OHIO Event sponsors have to make the hard decision of whether to host a USTU SANCTIONED event or an OPEN event. We now have it both ways. USTU has agreed to Sanction a portion of the- ARNOLD Battle of Columbus MARCH 2-3, 2001 Columbus Convention Center, Hall C Four (4) Rings at the ARNOLD Battle of Columbus are SANCTIONED by USTU and will have currently certified USTU Referees. USTU COMPETITORS must be USTU certified 2001 and must have verification with them. NOTE: Without a current USTU registration verification, you will not be able to compete in the WTF / USTU rings. USTU REFEREES will receive a ‘Certificate of Service’ to apply towards Referee upgrade. For your, USTU Membership Registration forms, visit, “What’s New?” www.OHIOtkd.org ???? Need a no cost refresher course ???? Master Choi’s Winter Camp 2001 includes referee & coach role play International Referee & WTF / USTU certified Instructor Master James Beasley OMAC , January 27th, 2001, 2:30-4:30 PM REFEREES: forms will be sent upon request CALL : 614.238.0422 FAX : 614.238.9022 E-mail: SUGARFTKD@aol.com VISIT : www.OHIOtkd.org 'What's New ?' ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 8:42:57 PST Subject: the_dojang: offline Ok folks, like I said, please take the weight training slams offline. Thanks. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 8:43:30 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #28 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.