From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #37 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 18 Jan 2001 Vol 08 : Num 037 In this issue: the_dojang: Shin the_dojang: Re: re-breakable boards... the_dojang: Re: Self-Defense Videos the_dojang: Re: Training in the Cold the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #36 the_dojang: Re: Background checks the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #36 the_dojang: Competing Separately the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:44:42 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Shin A reader writes: > I use to study TKD at Michigan State University in the mid-80's and had an > Instructor by the name of Lee Shin. I believe that the Instructor you are looking for is Master Shin who currently operates "Shin's Tae Kwon Do" on West Grand River in Okemos, MI. (near the big Meyers store). Sorry I don't have a complete address for you, but addressing as above might just get you there. Sincerely, Rudy ------------------------------ From: "Daniel G." Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:58:08 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: re-breakable boards... >------------------------------ > >From: "kadin goldberg" >Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 18:59:30 -0700 >Subject: the_dojang: re-breakable boards... > >Hey, I just went to a Kara Ho Kempo and Tae Kwon Do demonstration and i was >just wondering about the re-breakable boards... what exactly are they, the >person doing the demonstration said that they were equal to two normal >breaking boards... is that true?? Anyway, i just wondered because when he >held it, it didnt look like it would be too hard to break. > >thanks, >Kadin Don't judge a book by its cover. A rebreakable board consists of plastic pieces that interlock, so that a certain amount of force is necessary to separate them. Some are the equivalent of 1 wooden board, some of 2, some of 2, etc. I got an adjustable one recently, & I'm having a blast with it. Speaking of which, there's something I've been trying to figure out. Any of you familiar with the Nick Lee board? It has 3 inserts: white , grey & black. White is supposed to be the equivalent of a 4x12x1" pine board; grey 8x12x1"; black 12x12x1". So black would be the equivalent of one regular board, right? How about the others? Now it seems that grey & white should be progressively harder, but from testing it, it seems to be the other way around. Can anyone enlighten me? ~Daniel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:56:08 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Self-Defense Videos >>What are people's opinions on what the best videos >>are out there for basic street self-defense?? Steven, If you wait a while, there will be a very good video set on basic street Self-defense coming out later this year from Paladin Press. Working title is "Self-Defense Essentials" and its focus is street self-defense. Yes, I'm biased, it's my video. But my aim was to create a video that people could learn from, and that gives solid information on self-defense. Everyone involved believe we did this. I had some great people to work with, and Paladin was very happy with what we did. We included a lot of outside scenes showing the techniques that were taught being used in a defese situation. Video includes striking, kicking, falling, defenses against various attacks, etc. We didn't cover joint locks in this tape since we had two tapes worth of all the other stuff, and I covered basic joint locks in the "Hapkido Hoshinsul" video also with Paladin Press. (Also had to save some for future videos) Right now, working on a joint lock/restraint and control tape with another company, and a new book on staying safe. For a complete outline of what we filmed, let me know and I can send you after I get back to Montana. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:06:09 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Training in the Cold As other list members in Korea right now can attest to, it has been cold recently. Seeing your breath while training in the dojang, and haveing your feet numb with cold is all part of the experience. :-) Really liking training and not worrying about anything law related. Part of me doesn't want to go back to Montana, just stay here and train 3-4 classes a day. (how to pay for it is another story) Had an interesting accident last night. I was done with my classes for the day, and then went to another friend's dojang. (My instructor Lee Jun-kyu has a school, and my friend Kim Hyun has a school too) While there, one student got a deep cut across the base of his finger while blocking a side kick. At first, I though he jammed his finger when he grabbed his hand, but then Hyun and I saw the blood, and had to stop the class to take him to the hospital. After the hospital, met up with my instructor and Yi Saeng, Hyun's fiance and went out to dinner. My instructor's wife couldn't make it. All in all, very good day of training. Hope everyone elses went as well. I was going to try and make it to Taegu to visit Doju-nim Choi's grave, but it doesn't look like we are going to make it this trip. Too many people to see, and things to do, and little time. (And it is a long bus ride away) Yours in Training, Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:38:14 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #36 Donna mentioned the topic of a transvestite wanted to compete with the women... "Critical Care" (who is this REALLY?) replied: In a perfect world, we would match competitors based not on sex, but on a variety of other factors such as age, size, rank, etc. As long as we do use sex in making up the divisions, though, then I think that biological males shouldn't spar as females, no matter how they dress outside the dojang. I've actually run a tournament on this basis, where gender was NOT an issue. We split the groups up by age first, then weight class, then rank. If you were carrying around more weight than you should, well, you operated at a disadvantage. The competition was point sparring, NOT full-contact. I know that Kathy Smith (one of my personal heroes) has fought guys and done well, but I'm still not sure it is a good idea to match women with men in full-contact bouts. I would think that upper body strength would make a big difference there (comments?). But in point sparring, this division worked great, and actually crossed a lot of personal boundaries that people had set up. The women were in general more flexible (could hit the head easier with the legs) and the men were in general faster (perhaps because they were also more aggressive, and thus initiated the action more frequently). The other difference was that this was a "friendship tournament" meaning that instead of winners and losers, everyone got a participation certificate and advice from the ref on what to work on. We don't do these any more, but I used to love them -- it was great for building friendships in a low risk environment. A lot of people were shocked my utter disregard for gender barriers, but really, it worked very well. The only problem, I think, is that as I said the men were in general more aggressive than the women. The advantage was that when placed with the women, they generally toned down the testosterone and concentrated on technique (although that was dependent on the attitude of the ref, of course!). Take care! Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Migukyong@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:58:17 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Background checks i was curious as to why people on this list seem to think BI's are so expesnsive? Granted the cards can take awhile to come back, but hey, isn't it worth waiting for? Allow them to train, if a bunch of bad stuff comes back boot'em. In VA you can run a check through DCJS, The local police, etc. The cards will take about 1 dollars each to process... if someone can' afford 20 bucks, they can't afford class. ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:16:19 -0000 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #36 >Question # 1. Does "it" have the appendages of a man? If so, men's >division. No >if's and's or but's. Until "it" has the operation to make "it" completely a >woman. > >Question #2. Why do we compete separately anyway? > >Donna G. (Since there is a Donna S. on this list.) Answer # 1.: There's more to be a man or a woman than appendages. A person who has a leg amputated isn't less of a person. A man who has his "appendage" amputated isn't less of a man. See Ray's posting on genetics. Answer # 2.: Because men and women are different physically? Because men have been taught NOT to attack women (hopefully)? Because it's inherent in most, if not all, cultures that men and women do some things seperately? Personally, I think these are all legitimate reasons and don't do anything to make women appear to be "worse" than men. Taekwon, Chris "Every experience of beauty points to infinity." Hans Urs von Balthasar _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:29:38 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Competing Separately Donna G. Wrote: "Why do we compete separately anyway?" Are you serious? Ok, let's take a simple example from track & field. In world class competition, the men routinely run 100m dash times well under the 10 second mark. On the women's side, they're hard pressed to get it under 11 seconds, with only super-elite runners like Marion Jones posting times under the 11 second mark on a routine basis. A very simple illustration, but a very profound one, nonetheless. On average, men are bigger, stronger, faster, more robust, and more aggressive. I'm sorry, but separate divisions is what allows women to compete to begin with. Imagine a world without separate divisions. Do you really think women can compete on an equal basis with men in the vast majority of competitive sports, and experience any sort of success? I know that if I were a female, I'd WANT separate divisions. I don't consider it a "slight" to women that we have separate divisions...it's just the natural outgrowth of our physical differences. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 7:40:09 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #37 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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