From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #64 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 28 Jan 2001 Vol 08 : Num 064 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: muay thai in kansas city the_dojang: Saber grip the_dojang: Korean Language Village at Concordia Language Villages the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #63 the_dojang: Re: On Being a Leader the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:15:49 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: muay thai in kansas city does anyone know of a muay thai school in the greater metro kansas city area? none are listed in the phone book. got a call this morning from a guy wanting a referral. thanks! melinda Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.chajonshim.com Proud Sponsor of the 10th Annual 2001 US Open Taekwondo Championships ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:40:22 PST Subject: the_dojang: Saber grip There is an interesting column by the infamous Bob Kasper in the March 2001 issue of Tactical Knives magazine. The column describes "... why the saber grip is a flawed approach to executing snap cuts and thrusts in knife combat." In it he describes why, as we know, the saber grip gives one a suboptimal grip on the knife (or the stick). Pressure against the outside of the blade or stick can easily cause a loss of grip integrity. Yet in Hock Hochheim's Knife Fighting Encyclopedia he seems to favor this grip, even going so far as to term it the Filipino Grip. Now, it seems to me (and Kasper) that the Saber Grip is not really all that great for those up-n-close interpersonal encounters... Comments? Also, in the same issue is an article on what is now my favorite opening mechanism for pocket folders, the semi-automatic or assisted opening. Both my liner locking Kershaw "Ken Onion" Whirlwind and my Timberline with VDL (Vallotton Discovery Lock) are semi-autos, i.e. not switch-blades, but close. The assisted opening of the Timberline is better/different in that it has a coil tension spring that pulls the blade completely open once you get it started via the thumb stub. On Onion's mechanism a spring kicks the blade for just a short bit counting on inertia to open the blade the remainder of the way. I like and can recommend either one, but I really like the functionality of the Timberline VDL, especially as a backup folder. The double thumb stud makes it easy to open with either the left or right hand and the strong assisted opening mechanism comes in handy when use of the weak (or an injured) hand is required. Tactical Knives noted "The VDL is a sweet knife that is good looking, extremely clever in design, and functions flawlessly. It has a suggested retail price of $89.95, which is a bargain. I firmly believe that this is the best folding knife design to surface in the last year". Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Ross King" Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:54:59 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Korean Language Village at Concordia Language Villages Dear Korean Martial Arts Enthusiast: I am writing in my capacity as Dean of "Sup sogui Hosu", the Korean Language Village at Concordia Language Villages (http://www.ConcordiaLanguageVillages.org) in the Minnesota north woods with news about our summer immersion programs in Korean language and culture. I am hoping that our program will be of interest to you and/or your colleagues and students on two fronts. The first front: my greatest hope is that many of your students will be interested in attending our village to learn Korean. We offer immersion programming for young people ages 7-18. For the past two years, our first years of programming, we attracted 82 villagers each summer from 13 states and Canada. This summer (2001) we are expanding our offerings to four weeks of programming, from July 30 - August 25. This includes a 4-week high school credit program, a 2-week program, and two one-week programs. No prior background in Korean is required, and all levels are welcome. Our villagers are a diverse bunch -- adopted Koreans, second-generation Korean Americans, and many kids with no ethnic Korean background whatsoever. But whatever their background, the most enthusiastic and most successful villagers, hands down, have been the TKD practicioners. We'd love to get more of them, and figure that if a young person has already made a commitment to learning Korean martial arts, he or she might also be interested in learning Korean language and culture. Note also that our village programming includes instruction in Taekwondo (we always have at least 2 blackbelts on staff). But for us, the Taekwondo (and all our cultural activities) is there as yet another vehicle or excuse for teaching language -- we leave the serious TKD instruction to the pros (you!), outside of camp. The other front is of course staffing. We are always looking for enthusiastic practicioners of Korean martial arts with good kid skills, good leadership skills, and good Korean language skills, to work on our staff. You don't have to be a native Korean speaker to serve on our staff, but if you are not Korean, you would have to have learned the language to a pretty high level through formal study at one of the recognized programs in Korea (Yonsei University, etc.). If you know anybody who might be interested in working on staff, please let me know. Thanks for your attention. If you would like us to send you information about the Korean Language Village (or the Chinese and Japanese Languages Villages), please reply to this message with a mailing address (we found you on the web) -- we would be happy to send a flyer and brochures for your school. Otherwise, you can always find us on the web at the URL above. Our site also has on-line interactive villager and staff applications. Kamsa hamnida. Ross King Associate Professor of Korean, University of British Columbia and Dean, Korean Language Village, Concordia Language Villages _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:54:19 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #63 In a message dated 1/27/2001 7:55:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << You just had to one up me didn't you! :) gary >> sorry .... :-( (but I have never been able to use that line before ... couldn't resist~! :-) ) Illona ------------------------------ From: "Shaun M. Fortune" Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:47:40 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: On Being a Leader >------------------------------ >From: Ray Terry >Subject: the_dojang: leadership *** snip*** >So, back to my question... When does one recongnize within themself that >it >is time to branch off, lead on their own, and not just follow? > >Ray Terry Master Terry, This is an interesting question. My $.02 is that it lies within the perception and motivation of the individual and which side of the issue they are on. For the potential leader, I suppose that time comes when they feel they have learned all they need to learn from their current leader. However, that leader may have a different opinion. ;) This also assumes that the potential leader's motives are "pure" as opposed to being concerned with money/fame/whatever. I'm definitely NOT saying that GM Ji, SGM Lee or any of the others broke off for this reason, but I could easily see it happening. After all, people are still people and there seems to be a human tendency toward wanting to be rich and famous. Whether that outweighs other factors is up to the individual. I have a question of my own. After these gentlemen break off and become leaders, do they ever train with other Ms or GMs, I assume as relative equals, or do they just continue to develop and research their own art on their own? If they did, that would kind of muddy the waters on the issue of being a leader without being a follower. It would not, however, necessarily be a bad thing IMO. Shaun M. Fortune Taekwondo/hapkido _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:37:08 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #64 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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