From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #91 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 7 Feb 2001 Vol 08 : Num 091 In this issue: the_dojang: Iaido/Guhapdo? the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #90 the_dojang: Re: The Value of Certification the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #90 the_dojang: Belt Colors the_dojang: Training Supplies the_dojang: website advertising Re: the_dojang: Training Supplies the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: todd miller Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 15:49:08 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Iaido/Guhapdo? 1. How many on the list practice a sword art? 2. How many practice test cutting? I am in the proccess of organizing a Sword tournement and am trying to find people in the Korean Martial Arts comunity that practice sword arts /test cutting. The tournement will be a NABA sanctioned event with forms and cutting divisions. Master Todd Miller Korea Guhapdo Asscociation ------------------------------ From: CKCtaekwon@cs.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:55:50 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #90 In a message dated 2/7/01 2:27:58 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << From: go+r39@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:32:23 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #89 I have super enjoyed this thread about knife fighting and the first rule of knife fighting. Thanks to Ray and others for helping me better understand this stuff. >> I also have enjoyed the knife thread tremendously. One drill we do in our class on occasion is I have everyone wear an old t-shirt. We then use markers or hi-liters as our knives. Then we fight and it's obvious where we have been cut or if we have been cut. Then from there we work on knife tactics. Later, we bring out the markers again as our knives and see if we have improved any. Give it a try. gary pieratt New CKC Web Page ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:22:22 -0000 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The Value of Certification >From: "richard hackworth" >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:09:29 -0500 >Subject: the_dojang: The Value Of Certification? > >Here I go AGAIN, sticking my neck out. But, Does it REALLY matter where GM >Choi, Yong Sool learned what he knew? And if he was certified by Takeda or >not? I think that what is important is: Do you enjoy what you are learning? >Has it made a positive influence in your life? Do you respect your GM? Is >he >respected by his peers? (Does he affiliate with Peers?) I view this as not an either/or issue. Of course what counts the most is the effectiveness of the techniques taught. However, PART of that is certainly implied by what GM Choi learned, where, and from who. Notice that even in the recent discussion regarding knife fighting Ray and Alain were saying who they've learned from. Why? Because certification is inherently tied to such issues as reliablity of technique. Granted it's not a perfect one-to-one correspondence, but it is related. Go ahead and deny this, but you could sooner deny your belly button. > >I have met some very fine Hapkido people who have been a great influence on >my attitude about Hapkido Certification. None of them are members of the >same organization that I am affiliated with but we all share one common >bond. A deep love for our art. GM Hal Whalen and Master Billy Lee are two >such men. They spend every moment of their life eating, breathing, living >for Hapkido. I think that we would all benefit by doing the same. This is not the same issue. They might not be certified by the same organization, but they are certified by someone, are they not? It seems that since they have had such an influence on you that their organizations were RIGHT in granting them certification, neh? >It reminds me of a comment my daughter made when I was telling her about >who >invented baseball. She said, "I didn't know all that, I just knew that I >love to play the game." Right. But does she have a greater appreciation for baseball now that she knows its history? Taekwon, Chris "Every experience of beauty points to infinity." Hans Urs von Balthasar _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:40:33 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #90 My instructor (who is so genuinely devoted to his student's advancement) wrote: "Anyway, there is no word for sai in Korean. Master Ko explained that since it is not an indigenous weapon, it isn't used in traditional schools. When a weapon is from another country, the name was not changed to the Hangul (Korean language), but is left the same. Tonfa would be tonfa. Kama is kama. etc. Bong is a Korean weapon, so it does have it's own name. He did mention that some instructors when they came to America or other countries, may have given certain things names that they made up to make it seem they knew more than other people. So if you do eventually run into a name, it is probably made up. If you need anything else, let me know. He said he would be more than happy to help. Tang Soo, Mr. P" ------------------------------ From: RumNCoke220@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:19:59 EST Subject: the_dojang: Belt Colors I was flipping through the new Century Martial Arts catalog and found several descriptions of the reasons behind the colors chosen for belts. I found that white was supposed to represent the purity of a new student. Red = intensity. Blue = loyalty. I thought this was fairly interesting (although not exactly useful). Does anyone know what other belt colors are supposed to represent, such as brown, yellow, or any others? John ------------------------------ From: "richard hackworth" Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:44:49 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Training Supplies Do any DD members have a favorite rubber or plastic model handgun for gun defense training. What model is best and where can you get them? What experiences have you had good and bad with handgun disarms in class? Would you teach it to teens? And if so what legal limitations might be placed on handgun disarms training for youth? Richard Hackworth http://ma_success.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: "richard hackworth" Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:04:27 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: website advertising How many instructors use their school website to advertise the school and as an information site for their students and do the students refer to it often or is a school newsletter still the best way to inform students of upcoming events? What do you think? Richard Hackworth www.americandragon.org ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 17:05:01 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: Training Supplies > Do any DD members have a favorite rubber or plastic model handgun for gun > defense training. What model is best and where can you get them? What > experiences have you had good and bad with handgun disarms in class? Would > you teach it to teens? And if so what legal limitations might be placed on > handgun disarms training for youth? I like the ASP Redguns http://www.safetyleague.com/slstore/access/redguns.htm and have a couple of their models for training use. You can find cheaper ones, but not sure you can find better/safer ones. But my ears are open to other suggestions. Disarms are frequently taught prior to getting into retention techniques. The first rule (can you tell I like rules? :) of disarm -practice- is to keep your finger out of the trigger guard, else it easily gets broken. For retention techniques I like former LEO Jim Lindell's method, not surprizingly called The Lindell Method of Handgun Retention. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 17:44:22 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #91 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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