From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #93 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 8 Feb 2001 Vol 08 : Num 093 In this issue: the_dojang: belt/trim colors the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #92 the_dojang: Sword the_dojang: Re: Training supplies: Richard Hackworth the_dojang: Re: asking for it the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #92 the_dojang: Iaido the_dojang: Pregnancy and the arts the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #91 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #91 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Or so it was claimed... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:16:32 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #92 In a message dated 2/7/2001 9:51:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << brown-now there much stuff, people in this rank seem full of brown stuff! >> I find that the students become cocky at three belt levels here ... Orange ... Blue .... Brown. LOL ! Illona ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 02:36:30 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Sword Todd Miller writes: > 1. How many on the list practice a sword art? > > 2. How many practice test cutting? Hello Todd: Although we don't devote all our time to the sword, Kong Shin Bup students do practice basics, meditation, hyung, and test cutting diligently. Master Hackworth: We use both newsletters and the web to communicate with our members, and I find the web becoming more accepted as we speak. With the rediculous cost of mailing a letter in Canada, the web looks promising. Sincerely, Rudy National Korean Martial Arts Association ------------------------------ From: foxdragon@cuttingedge.net Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 02:45:05 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Training supplies: Richard Hackworth > From: Bernard G Redfield > Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:48:40 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: Training Supplies: richard hackworth > > "Training Supplies: richard hackworth" > > "Do any DD members have a favorite rubber or plastic model > handgun for > gun > defense training. What model is best and where can you get > them? What > experiences have you had good and bad with handgun disarms > in class?" > > How about a cheap water pistol, have your students go for > a dis-arm, in > the class , outside in a parking lot at night, in an > elevator, where > ever, see how wet they get. : ) If you are going to be doing that, make sure you get the squirt guns as unreal looking as they can get. Bright colors and possibly glow in the dark. The last thing you need is some cop who does not know what is going on to be shooting you in a parking lot with real bullets. My favorite is the super soaker. Shoots water up to 25 ft away. My next will probally be one that shoots balls of water. I still have yet to get my own instructor unawares. Needless to say, it is fun and we do get soaked. Donna ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:27:22 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: asking for it Luc asks: << I wonder how many of these situations are because you asked for it? >> Quite a few. When younger, especially when I was in the 82nd and 2nd ID in Korea, I was hot headed and quick to fight. A lot of the stuff I was in could have been avoided. I was stupid on more than one occasion, and very lucky on a number of occasions too. Like to say it was my toughness, skill and all that, but reality is I got lucky a few times too. Anyone can be beat, crippled, or killed.... So yes, you are 100% correct that the best lesson is to learn to not put yourself in a situation that has to get physical. Awareness and Avoidance are key! That's one of the main lessons I try to get across in my book Hard Won Wisdom. Had an altercation here in Missoula a few months back. (Thanksgiving) 100% avoidable. Two guys went out to prove something. (Been there, done that) One died, the other went to prison. Hmm...... Neither of them even had to go outside. Looks like you are teaching the right thing Luc. Let's hope people listen. Yours in Training, Alain ------------------------------ From: CKCtaekwon@cs.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:33:25 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #92 In a message dated 2/7/01 11:51:27 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << How about a cheap water pistol, have your students go for a dis-arm, in the class , outside in a parking lot at night, in an elevator, where ever, see how wet they get. : ) Bernard >> We did the water pistol thing and the one being disarmed squeezed too hard and they broke! gary New CKC Web Page ------------------------------ From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:07:42 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Iaido Todd asked about sword arts so... I've been training in Hoki-ryu Iaido for three years now, and am a first dan. Before that I had done some fencing and some Chinese saber (Preying Mantis). I haven't done any test cutting; I'm still waiting to hear from my instructor (Dr. Tetsu Nakamura) as to whether I should move on to live steel or just get a new iaito. Where are you planning to have this get-together Todd? There was an iaido instructor in Minnesota who was writing me about making connections as well. Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:21:29 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Pregnancy and the arts Hi Folks, Just a note on pregnancy and the martial arts. Make sure your students realize that they will become ultra-flexible while pregnant, which means they have to watch out or they will strain something badly. That said, it is of course safe to train (with care and avoiding violent motion). Here is the IU TKD page. http://www.indiana.edu/~iutkd/pictures1998.htm A lot of these photos are mislabeled, but look at the one called: "Nice Sidekick (and she's pregnant)". That's my wife when she was nine months pregnant! Take care, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: FGS & KVF Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 07:11:11 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #91 I practice Iaido and also do some Korean sword forms. Where would the tournament be held? Spunky _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: FGS & KVF Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 07:19:53 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #91 > In TKD, the colors: white: innocence as the beginning student has no prior > experience. Yellow: signifies earth from which a plant sprouts and takes root > as the TKD foundation is being laid. green: signifies plants growth as the > TKD skill begins to develop. blue: signifies theheaven toward which the plant > matures into a towering tree as training in TKD progresses. red: signifies > danger, cautioning the student to exercise control and warning the opponent to > stay away. black: opposite of white, thus signifying the maturity and > proficiency in TKD. Also indicates the wearer's imperviousness to darkness and > fear. However, I have also seen the meanings for these colors advanced by one color. In other words, if white is given at the start, then yellow signifies innocence and so on down with a brown belt either between red and black or between blue and red, depends on the instructor. Spunky _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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