From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #101 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 11 Feb 2001 Vol 08 : Num 101 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #99 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #100 the_dojang: working fine the_dojang: Women and Knee problems the_dojang: handgun disarms the_dojang: CBC martial arts program Re: the_dojang: handgun disarms the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FGS & KVF Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:48:32 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #99 > The knee trouble you are talking about is called Chondromalacia, and it is the wearing down of the cartilage in the back of her kneecap. It is usually along with a tracking problem, which means that her kneecap tracks laterally during weight bearing activities such as squatting and walking and stairs. The cartilage at this stage of the game in medicine can not be replaced. Think of it as osteoarthritis, we usually recommend strengthening of the quads, adductors (inside leg muscles), and hamstrings to take off the pressure from the knee joint. Straight leg raises, and working on trying to get the person to bend the knees while controlling the position of the knee cap. Orthotics can help if the person has "flat feet", and physical therapy is definitely the first step. Don't advise squats, frog jumps as they are not helpful to the patient. Partial squats are good quad builders but only if the patient learns correct joint mechanics. However, depending on the stage of Chondromalacia, the patient may be directed towards > nonweight bearing exercises, biking, swimming aqua aerobics. It depends on the person's own weight, heavier the worse the wear and tear, and the stage of the kneecap. But always better for the patient to consult with her own physical therapist for personalized exercise program. > As for MA, depends on the stage of the problem. She could definitely continue with a self defense emphasis, just maybe not stances and such. Spunky > I've got a new student that has knee trouble. She says she was > diagnosed with "condomylatia". Her description is from damage to her knees > from jogging and doing Aerobics on hard concrete. She's also talked about > how her patella doesn't track correctly on her knee. She said the condition > is permenent. > > I've been taking her what I consider extremly slow and careful. > But, she still confesses to me that her knee's hurt after practice. The > first day we did some work with forward stance, but because she's new and > not quite doing the motion correctly -- it put a lot of stress on her > knees. So the next day she had knee supports and I had her do everything > in walking stance. Her knee's weren't hurting after class, but they were > by the time she got home. > > Does anyone have any advice for me regarding this? Is she going to > able to do martial arts? What can I do to strenthen her thighs so that she > won't be in such pain? Does anyone know where I can get information on this? > I did a internet search and couldn't find anything (although she may have > misspelled it for me). ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:01:44 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #100 In a message dated 2/11/2001 8:58:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << http://users.ev1.net/~D.McHenry/files/karate.mpe >> cannot seem to get here ... Illona ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:33:06 PST Subject: the_dojang: working fine > << http://users.ev1.net/~D.McHenry/files/karate.mpe >> > > cannot seem to get here ... Keep trying. It worked fine for me... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Gary Kloster Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:09:45 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Women and Knee problems Hi guys- Unfortunately I can't off much advice to Mr. Kluzek about his student with knee problems, other then maybe recommending that she talk to a physical therapist about strengthening exercises. However his question does give me an opening to pass on some new (for me at least) info on knee injuries and women. My fiancee is a doctor, and at a recent lecture we went to (ah, free food) the presentation was on women in athletics. One of the presenters main points was on how women tend to suffer 2 to 8 times as many knee injuries as men, depending on the sport. Sports involving lots of cutting motions and quick turns (ahem, MA) were of course the hardest on the knees. They are not sure exactly why this is the case, but guesses are smaller size (which means smaller tendons), hip structure differences and hormones. I did a little literature searching of my own afterwards and managed to find at least one interesting thing. In a study by Wojtys, Edward M. (Association between the menstrual cycle and anterior cruciate ligament injuries in female athletes, American Journal of Sports Medicine v.26, n.5 Sep. 98 p.614-619), they think they found a link between ACL tears and the ovulatory phase (days 10-14)of the cycle. This is a time when estrogen and Relaxin levels are rising. So this might be part of the problem. So, while it's important that we all keep an eye on our knees, it looks like female athletes should be especially vigilant. Just proving once again that nature is unfair. Remember, learn to love the muscle burn. But when the joint's complain, best embrace your inner wuss. GK ------------------------------ From: CKCtaekwon@cs.com Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:25:49 EST Subject: the_dojang: handgun disarms Several years ago I purchased the handgun disarm video from TRS, the one recently mentioned on The Digest. Found them interesting, but also high maintenance. A couple of years ago I purchased the handgun disarming video by Jerry Peterson (SCARS). Now that is all I teach when it comes to handgun disarming. The video is excellent, the techniques dynamite and very effective, and low maintenance. gary pieratt ------------------------------ From: Ian Miller Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:17:30 GMT Subject: the_dojang: CBC martial arts program For those that are interested, CBC radio aired an excellent program on the martial arts called "The way of the western warrior". It's about an hour long and you can get it in real audio at: http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/Tapestry/ It's on martial arts in general, but there is some stuff on Tae Kwon Do, among others. Just thought I'd pass it along. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:59:23 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: handgun disarms > A couple of years ago I purchased the handgun disarming video by Jerry > Peterson (SCARS). Now that is all I teach when it comes to handgun disarming. > The video is excellent, the techniques dynamite and very effective, and low > maintenance. Gary, Tell us more about Peterson's SCARS program. I know that his first(?) series of tapes called HCS (Hostile Control System) were pretty bogus. Peterson himself was briefly a student of Bill Hulsey in Kung Fu San Soo (a style founded by Jimmy Woo that doesn't look much like a typical Kung Fu style) and I've heard from several that SCARS is similar to the San Soo techniques that are learned up through about green belt level. But -I- have not personally seen the SCARS tapes, just talked to several that have. They were not at all impressed. Your thoughts? Some links to San Soo at http://www.jhoonrhee.com/Links/san_soo_kung_fu.htm. Bill Hulseys' link is http://www.wrolin.com/sansoo.htm. Also see http://www.navysealteams.com/SCARS.htm and http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000318.html. FWIW. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:21:20 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #101 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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