From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #122 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 18 Feb 2001 Vol 08 : Num 122 In this issue: the_dojang: Spyderco Delica the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #117 the_dojang: bubblegum the_dojang: Re: Time the_dojang: Re: time the_dojang: Mac's Comment Regarding Time the_dojang: Korea trip the_dojang: travelling in Korea the_dojang: eating in Korea the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Bennett" Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:50:38 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Spyderco Delica The site http://www.knifeworks.com has the Spyderco Delica for $ 41.49. I prefer the straight edge because I use it mainly for cutting apples and envelopes. This thing is so comfortable I've accidentally slept with it on many times. I've also accidentally gone water skiing with it on and it didn't fall out of my pocket. Yet, I can unfurl it with one hand in under a second. Small enough yet big enough. Kinda funny... Yesterday I fought in the Texas Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Cup in Dallas, Texas. I was standing there talking to a group of about 4 other instructors when I noticed that every single one of us had a pocket-clip type knife on our hip. HA! Bucha thugs! I mentioned that fact and we soon had a big knife inspection party going on. When I whipped out my Delica one of the other instructors said "Yeah, my wife carries that knife". Wha??! I carry a "girl's knife"??. No way. I love it. It's perfect for me. I've had mind for years and buy them to give as Christ's mass presents almost every year. ------------------------------ From: CKCtaekwon@cs.com Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:54:01 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #117 In a message dated 2/16/01 2:12:02 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << From: HardCoresixpax@aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:52:15 EST Subject: the_dojang: re: time To the guy that wrote that in his style, to acquire a black belt, takes 15 years and because of that they are better than other black belts. I have a small question? At what point is the martial artist's code of morals taught? Have you ever heard of modesty? I have an important lesson to teach, time and practice can strengthen the body, but without the mind the body cannot survive. The mind can be manipulated in a very short time to do very amazing things... so basically what I am saying is that, 15 years spent striving to acquire a black belt, which symbolizes both strength of mind and body, with out the proper mental training and decorum, is empty. Also, please, with out offense, knock this c*&P off. It makes me sick when martial artists exploit their talents and conceitedly exaggerate the efficiency of their training. It’s these attitudes that are the makes for terrible martial arts movies with generic plots (of underdog high school students vying for the girlfriend of the bully that inspired his training due to mindless beatings) and standard cliques. Please let me refer you to an article that recently appeared in the magazine Combat Arts, about master Sun I don’t recall the article well but when a student of the grandmaster asked why he stresses modesty in his students when they can easily defeat any opponent. His answer was, you should stay as low on the ladder as possible, because should some one push you off, you wont fall from such high grounds. So let me end my by saying, the abilities of the mind are timeless, and limitless and can doubtlessly over power brute strength... even with technique. - -Gary P.s. what style are you taking anyway? >> I want to make sure that EVERYONE knows that this gary is not me! Gary Pieratt New CKC Web Page ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:42:11 PST Subject: the_dojang: bubblegum > When I whipped out my Delica one of the other instructors said "Yeah, my > wife carries that knife". Wha??! I carry a "girl's knife"??. No way. I > love it. It's perfect for me. Only if you carry one in one of the foofoo colors they come in like bubblegum... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: JSaportajr@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:20:22 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Time In a message dated 2/18/01 4:27:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << "With one eye always on the goal you only have one eye left for the path." Without the goal, which path would you take? Goals are extremely important, without one, and 'keeping one eye on the goal', it would be impossible to follow the path. >> I am no expert on this, but perhaps this is a good illustration of a difference between an Eastern versus Western outlook. The first quote likely reflects a Zen philosophy. Jose' ------------------------------ From: JSaportajr@aol.com Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:37:08 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: time <> One more word on this, it might lead to an interesting discussion. You may be right in one way and wrong in another. First, there is a difference between a generally defined goal versus such a focus on the goal that you don't get as much out of the path. I have known people whose only goal was to get a black belt and they were so focused on that that it restricted what they were open to learn. When I began my Hapkido training I was a 2nd dan black belt in Taekwondo. I put on a white belt my first Hapkido class, and all I cared about was learning Hapkido, I didn't so much care about getting the rank. Since I already had my black belt, it wasn't so crucial for me to get another one. I tested when my instructor told me to test and put on the color belt he told me to wear, but my focus has been on learning Hapkido and not on rank. Id much rather remain a white belt and learn the techniques really well than to get promoted to black belt and not know the techniques that well. As a result of this attitudinal difference I think I have gotten more out of my training than when I was focused on getting my black belt in Taekwondo. As an aside, I am some times embarrassed when someone with a black belt in one style, say Taekwondo, goes to train in another style, say Hapkido, and wears his or her Taekwondo rank. I have trained in several styles since I have been a Taekwondo black belt, and have always put on a white belt. I wonder if others have similar or different views about this. Jose' ------------------------------ From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:33:23 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Mac's Comment Regarding Time Mac wrote: "Without the goal, which path would you take? Goals are extremely important, without one, and 'keeping one eye on the goal', it would be impossible to follow the path." Mac, thanks so much for making that observation. I agree with you wholeheartedly. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "jere-hilland" Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:33:39 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Korea trip In South Korea, all of the nicer hotels have computers in a room that you can rent by blocks of minutes or by the minute. Set up a account such as hotmail or any other html email service. You will see IE in English at most. Your electrical connections will not work. You need a converter, but some of the really nice hotels in Seoul have converters in the rooms. You will find Burger Kings everywhere. The local draft beer is good. Jere R. Hilland www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul ------------------------------ From: "Anthony or Clare Boyd" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:48:13 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: travelling in Korea The voltage in Asia is different and many coutries use different styles of plugs. Here in Korea they sockets require a two prong plug with long round prongs. The voltage is 220. You should easily be able to buy an adapter for your laptop plug and if the laptop's power cable is free-volt you will need nothing else. (Check your manual. However - you will not have access to your ISP unless you choose to call long-distance). Most decent hotels have an internet room which guests can use for an inflated rate. Most streets however have dozens of PC rooms which offer fast connections at less than a dollar per hour. E-mail should not be a problem. You do not need your laptop at all unless you simply have to have it. You can get beer everywhere. It's very hard to avoid. The greasy burger can be obtained from McDonald's, Burger King, Winner's, Lotteria... get my drift? If you are looking for other familiar food there are millions of KFC, Pizza Hut, Subway, Popeye's, Domino's, etc chains. You really should eat the local food though - it makes for great stories at home. Heh. Enjoy your trip! Got Sword? http://welcome.to/haidonggumdo ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:21:29 PST Subject: the_dojang: eating in Korea > You can get beer everywhere. It's very hard to avoid. The greasy burger can > be obtained from McDonald's, Burger King, Winner's, Lotteria... get my > drift? Check out the Bulgogi Burgers at the Lotterias. My favorite! :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:59:01 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #122 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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