From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #142 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 28 Feb 2001 Vol 08 : Num 142 In this issue: the_dojang: list down for a few days the_dojang: RE: Jackie Stern the_dojang: Re: The cane ? the_dojang: RE:Dillman Seminars the_dojang: Dog Brothers vs. Snoop Doggy Dog and G-Dog the_dojang: RE: Pressure Points the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #141 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 8:23:56 PST Subject: the_dojang: list down for a few days FYI, I'll be laid up for a few days which will cause the list to be down for several days. Look for it to return in about three, + or -, days. See ya'll then... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Michael Rowe (outlook)" Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:31:35 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Jackie Stern I remember this man. I was teaching at American Tae Kwon Do & Hapkido Academy in our Weston, Florida location. This man came in and asked about teaching some classes. I was sickened by this SOB. Amazing that he never talked about his so called MOH must be because I pointed all the BS he was talking about in his other actions. Michael Rowe ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:43:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: The cane ? It was noted about the cane as a weapon: <... but don't like to spend much time on a weapon I can't carry with me. The cane is not a requirement in my tkd program. Your comments are welcome.> Response: Can someone here clarify. I have read that the cane is the perfect weapon to carry since it is legal in all venues, including airports. Hence, if you have a weapon you can legally carry, it makes sense to train in expert use of it. So, what is the real deal, not Holifield ? Thanks, McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Dunn, Danny J RASA" Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:58:04 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE:Dillman Seminars C. B. Thanks for your efforts. Look forward to hearing what Mr. Bay says about the seminars. Danny Dunn <<<<<<<<< My friend Mr. Bays and I were together working on some FMA and some of Dillmans theories and principles tonite and I happend to remember this column about some one looking for anyone who has been to his seminars and graciously asked him to comment on this forum about this. C.B.>>>>>> ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:07:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Dog Brothers vs. Snoop Doggy Dog and G-Dog Marc Denny partially wrote: Response: I have one or two Dog Brothers films via Panther Productions. Good stuff. Compliments to Mr. Denny and the Dog Brothers. But, I am new to this stuff. I was just listening to Snoop Doggy Dog and Warren G, re: G-Dog, along with Nasty Dog and the other "Dog Pound" Crew. Additionally, I just wrote my comments about Cebu and dogs in the PI. Seems to be a theme going on here and I am trying to get a reading on the similarities of canines, and martial arts. But, my big question is, are the Dog Brothers related in anyway to Snoop Doggy Dog and the Dog Pound Crew. No disrespect, but with all this Dog identification perhaps a patent on the names should be in order. After all, you guys may get into a "dogfight" over copy right infringments. Also is there any correlation to the formation of the Dog Brothers and the parallel formation of the Dog Pound Crew with Snoop Dog, Nasty Dog, and Big Dog, The DogFather, and such. I recall that Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dog coalesced during the same late eighties and early nineties. I think Snoop Dog was originally on the Death Row label but is now running with the pack formed by Dr. Dre and Eminem ? Also, note that the Dog Brothers and Snoop Dog and the Dog Pound are both West Coast groups. There was this one Snoop Doggy Dog line in one of his CD's, something about burying a dog bone in one of his...anyway you can see my mind is truly on this "Dog" stuff. Has anyone formed a "Feline" group, say out of the East Coast ? Thanks, McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Dunn, Danny J RASA" Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:16:03 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Pressure Points Heck Charles, I've always thought your posts were pretty short and to the point. <<<<<<<<" so I'll be brief. I would echo all of Bruce's points, but couldn't resist a little embellishment.>>>>>>>>> You brought out some good points below. You have to learn to walk before you can run, and pressure points are more like running pretty fast. As for understanding forms, I have seen far to many people, even at senior BB level who treat and do their forms as nothing more than a dance. Danny Dunn <<<<<<<<<<<<. Again (IMHO) hyungs memorization without some bunkai (pressure point/joint manipulation in my case) leads one down the trail of "organized despair ." Yours in Jung Do, Charles (Long Wind) Richards Moja Kwan TSD>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ From: Richard Zaruba Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:52:38 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #141 Hello, I would like to express my humble opinion on one, two and three step sparring. I know of several instructor in my area who have totally discarded step sparring in favor of free sparring only and personally I believe this is a mistake. I use several sets of one, two and three step sparring to actually teach students what reactions can be expected. A simple example of one I use to start my white belts is a simple jab-reverse-front kick thrown back and forth. The person throwing the combo is told to vary his targets to force his partner to react and block. His partner is required to block the combo and counter with the identical combo immediately after blocking the front kick to take advantage of the pause created. This simple sequence serves several very important purposes: 1) It develops and reinforces the ability to throw several techniques continuously instead of the one shot prayer I've seen so often in tournaments. 2) It forces the person throwing the combo to adjust each technique according to the movements and position of his partner/opponent. 3) It forces the defender to actually have to defend against techniques with an element of uncertainty that helps to develop awareness. 4) It teaches the defender a sense of timing required for blocking and countering an opponent. I find that these drills will actually enhance the students abilities in several areas as long as a normal training sequence of starting slow and progressively increasing speed as their ability increases. I no longer use one steps that throw only one or two techniques then stop because they work against the first advantage that I stated. Also I use the sets to teach several ideas and principles, such as using a reverse punch to cover the initiation of a rear-leg front kick. The sets I use become increasing complex usually emphasizing the different traits and ideas to be taught at each level. In my opinion and experience, there is a great deal to be learned and carried over from a somewhat controlled experience such as step sparring into the students free sparring and abilities in general. Respectfully, Richard Zaruba ____________________________________________________________________________ Richard Zaruba University of North Dakota School of Medicine and Health Sciences Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology 501 North Columbia Road P.O. Box 9037 Grand Forks, ND 58203-9037 Off: (701) 777-3952 Lab: (701) 777-2576 Fax: (701) 777-2477 ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:47:05 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #142 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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