From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #154 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 9 March 2001 Vol 08 : Num 154 In this issue: the_dojang: Monks and other stories the_dojang: Chunhyang lecture at KCI/IIC the_dojang: More on swords the_dojang: Re: Olympic Sparring Seminar and Regional AAU Tournament April 26, 27, 28 in Se the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #153 the_dojang: The BIG D ! - March 24, 2001 the_dojang: Those wacky Irish friends the_dojang: RE: Instructors deficits the_dojang: Forms that use Fans the_dojang: Re: Dan Bong the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hottstuff5344105@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:43:06 EST Subject: the_dojang: Monks and other stories I am amazed that people were surprized to see monks using what are everday items to everyone else. Did you think they lived in caves without electricity eating roots and herbs between week long meditation sessions under the icy waterfall? It reminds me of a story I heard at a tournament where another Master who spent a whole week in Korea on one of those tours bragged about taking the "Daily Lessons and Classes at Kukkiwon?" Taugh by Dr. Un Yong Kim's GrandMaster who sat on the platform in meditative position barking out the commands. He was so old that he was completely bald except for his long white beard. (Wait, it gets better) Then he explained that he could understand Korean even though he doesn't speak it, but the Old GrandMaster at Kukkiwon was difficult to understand because he was so old that he had NO teeth and used many Chinese words!!! When he stopped talking I laughed so hard I nearly wet myself. He still teaches Taekwondo in Florida. The stories he must tell his students. I did not print his name here to allow him a bit of human dignity. (But if you really need to know you can e-mail me via my website). Richard Hackworth http://ma_success.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:43:21 PST Subject: the_dojang: Chunhyang lecture at KCI/IIC Intercultural Institute of California (IIC) Korean Center, Inc. (KCI) 1362 Post St. (at Gough), San Francisco 94109 Phone: 415-441-1881 E-mail: iic@iic.edu Website: www.iic.edu FREE LECTURE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC KOREAN LITERATURE: Pansori and the 'Song of Chunhyang' Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:30 pm Dr. Kichung Kim, professor of English literature at San Jose State University and author of An Introduction to Classical Korean Literature: From Hyangga to P'ansori, will speak about pansori and the 'Song of Chunhyang' in the context of Korean Literature. Chunhyang is a classic Korean story that has been told for centuries. It takes place in 18th century Korea, where Mongryong, the son of the Governor of Namwon, is studying before he goes to school in Seoul. During the summer before he leaves, he meets and falls in love with Chunhyang, the beautiful daughter of a local courtesan. The recent movie version of Chunhyang was one of the first Korean movies ever to appear in American theatres. Directed by reknowned South Korean director Im Kwon Taek, the movie uses the ancient operatic tradition of pansori, a narrative art that uses dance and song, to heighten the film's drama and to provide an additional layer of depth to the already powerful folk tale. Light reception. The Intercultural Institute of California (IIC) / Korean Center, Inc. (KCI) is located at 1362 Post St. (at Gough), San Francisco, CA. For more information, call 415-441-1881 or e-mail: iic@iic.edu. Check out our web site at www.iic.edu ------------------------------ From: Hottstuff5344105@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:42:05 EST Subject: the_dojang: More on swords While we are asking about sword books does anyone know where I can get a copy of Kyung Ok Lee's book called KumMuSool: Korea's Ancient Sword Tradition??? A photo of Admiral Yi's swords was on the cover. It was printed in both Korean and English in 1977 by Pil Sung Publishing. Richard Hackworth http:ma_success.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: SallyBaughn@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:25:42 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Olympic Sparring Seminar and Regional AAU Tournament April 26, 27, 28 in Se Ric Gordon wrote: << Subject: the_dojang: Olympic Sparring Seminar and Regional AAU Tournament April 26, 27, 28 in Seattle >> Wow! Mr. Gordon, I'm impressed! This is the kind of promotion Olympic Taekwondo and its athletes need and deserve and rarely see. Thank you for sharing this information with us. Sally Baughn SallyBaughn@aol.com ------------------------------ From: UTAKOTKD@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:12:15 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #153 Hey...guys. For any of you that r interested...UTA is having "amatuer full contact" fighting later this summer. If this "action" appeals to any of you...please do not hesitate to respond. OSU! OSU: UTA ------------------------------ From: "John Bennett" Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:07:35 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: The BIG D ! - March 24, 2001 Carlos Machado & Walt Mason invite you to participate in the 19th Annual "Big D" ! Date: Saturday, March 24, 2001 The Big D is a Texas institution. It is the largest martial arts tournament in Texas. Competitors from all over the country representing a diverse array of martial arts styles compete in this event. The grappling portion of the tournament will be conducted entirely by Carlos Machado following standard Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu tournament format and rules. There are three experience levels, Beginner, Intermediate, & Advanced utilizing standard Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu weight divisions. Location: Nuthin' But Net Recreation Center 1200 E. Parker Road @ Avenue K Plano (Dallas), Texas 75074 Registration begins: 8:00am Tournament begins: 10:00am Pre-Registration: (Received By March 21, 2001) $35 Event Day Registration: $40 Tournament Website (including divisions and registration form): http://www.texaskarate.com/bigd.htm * Beautiful & Unique Awards for all Divisions * Free T-Shirts to the first 300 pre-registrants * Plenty of close parking with no parking fees * Equipment Vendors & Concessions * Huge facility with more than 40 rings of continuous action This is a great opportunity for practitioners of other martial arts styles to see how safe and fun Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu competition really is. Nowhere else can you watch such a wide variety of martial arts competitions in one place, even weapons competitions. It is truely a spectacular and interesting event to attend. We hope to see you there! Machado Jiu-Jitsu Academy of Dallas, Texas 13720 Midway Road Suite 210 Dallas, Texas 972-934-1316 http://carlosmachado.com ------------------------------ From: cspiller@e3mil.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:40:33 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Those wacky Irish friends >Apparently after the "Faction Fight" was over (typically on weekends I think), they all went back to being friends. Weird.< Actually this sounds like it could describe many of the martial arts tournaments that I have been to. Taekwon, Chris >_______________________________________________________________ >Get your Private, Anti-Spam, Free Email at http://e3mil.com >Your Internet Home for Your Faith, Your Life, and Your World! > "Every Experience of Beauty Points to Infinity" Hans Urs von Balthasar _______________________________________________________________ Get your Private, Anti-Spam, Free Email at http://e3mil.com Your Internet Home for Your Faith, Your Life, and Your World! ------------------------------ From: "Sims, Bruce W. NCHVAMC" Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:59:41 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Instructors deficits Dear Mr. Hodder: "...I think that if one does not have a problem with the instruction they have received over the years, and they don't have visions of early greatness, then questions about their past should not make them uncomfortable. Integrity, being one of our tenets, should always prevail. None the less, when it comes down to getting on the mat, it is very hard to hide weakness....." Well said. Do you mind if I dovetail off of your comments? I think the "problem with the instruction" that you mentioned is the biggest "elephant in the livingroom" We have to deal with. (For those who don't know the metaphore, "elephant in the livingroom" is used in substance abuse counseling to identify an issue everyone knows about but nobody wants to talk about.) It seems that a lot of people want to be able to identify themselves as being capable in some pretty sophisticated arts (ie. Hsing-I, Ba Qua Chang, Hapkido, Daito-ryu) but have not or will not invest the time, energy, (and yes) money to attain legitimate standing. I will use myself as an example. After 16 years of training I am a 3rd degree BB in Hapkido. If you are waiting for me to "work the system" so I can inflate my rank and so dodge questions about how I can be publishing books on Hapkido training, don't hold your breath. I have seen 5th and 7th degree BB at seminars who never seem to quite make it out on the mat. In fact I have come to believe that some of the more traditional Hapkido seminars run by transplanted Korean nationals remain somewhat small as everyone is expected to pair up and get out on the mat. In these cases most of the "wannabees" wait until there is a moment to excuse themselves from the mat and do not return for the balance of the seminar. It's a pain in the ass to the guy left on the mat, but that's another issue for another time. By way of example perhaps people who attended the recent Kidohae seminar in Chicago could give some feedback on their experience. I understand that the attendence was lighter than the Internationale down in Jackson. Maybe we can learn something by comparing the learning and teaching environments of these two experiences, yes? Let me close this off by making this a little less general to organizations and a little more personal to individuals. I teach my students that "every form of refuge has its price". If people cut corners to get where they are, wouldn't you think that somewhere along the line whenthey wake up and smell the coffee, these folks would make the necessary arrangements to get the training needed to support the status which they profess to the world? Maybe what we need to do is offer remedial instruction albeit VERY discreet to these folks so that they can elevate the quality of their instruction with relatively little embarrassment. What do you think? Best Wishes, Bruce W Sims www.midwesthapkido.com ------------------------------ From: Daremo and Kitsune Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 06:16:25 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Forms that use Fans Does anyone happen to know where I could find any forms that use fans? I have a student interested in them and would like to find something. Thanks for the assistance. Robert Frankovich Tiger Consulting Senior Trainer 4th Dan AAU Taekwondo 4th Dan Song Moo Kwan Taekwondo 2nd Dan Seidokan Aikido www.tigerconsulting.org "There's more to balance than not falling over." Michael Angier ------------------------------ From: "Jim Griffin" Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:16:19 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Dan Bong Hey - speaking of dan bong... Did anyone else get to attend the Arnold Battle of Columbus (Ohio) last weekend? The event was a blast with folks from many styles (TKD, HKD, Kung Fu, Karate, and a bunch of other neat Chinese styles I can't reliably spell) getting together to compete and demonstrate their skills. At any rate, the demo / half-time show included Grand Master Ho Kim using dan bong to defend himself against Grand Master Young Choi (a sword expert) who was using a practice sword. The attacks were fast and furious, but GM Kim batted every single one away without getting hit once (that I could see anyway). This was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. The night before, I got to attend another Bill Wallace seminar (also part of the Arnold Battle of Columbus activities) and had the honor of being his demo dummy for part of the time. He apparently likes kicking tall guys in the head - he got me 10-15 times and I was trying my hardest to block him, dang it. All in all, this was a super cool weekend. - ---===--- Jim Griffin www.wuma.com sitebuilder.liveuniverse.com/jgriffin/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 7:29:10 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #154 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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