From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #161 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 12 March 2001 Vol 08 : Num 161 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Dan Bong the_dojang: Re: How much "do"? the_dojang: Re: Gun Disarms the_dojang: Daito ryu the_dojang: what is.?. the_dojang: Hwarang Do videos etc. the_dojang: reflections on a tournament.... the_dojang: another list the_dojang: Re: Changes to the WTF Rules the_dojang: Weapons training sites the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Carsten Jorgensen Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:34:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Dan Bong Bruce wrote: >> I know, even when I hear myself make such statements ("Dan bong is a Korean weapon" or "dan bong is a hapkido weapon") I sorta wince inside. So what is it, Bruce? No other culture on the earth ever used a crooked stick or a short stick as a weapon? Sure, only the Koreans used a short stick, or a cane, or a sword, or a staff. Not. << I can't speak for "Hapkido" (whatever that is), but in Hwarang Do the use of the Danbong comes from the Buddhist drumsticks - those they use on the Drum of the Law and the Wooden Fish etc. Those of you who've seen them know what I mean. That's where the wristsnap, double danbong etc comes from. Very simple when you know the background :-) Carsten Jorgensen hwarangdo@email.com Copenhagen, Denmark - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ From: Carsten Jorgensen Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:36:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: How much "do"? Mark wrote: >> Of course the martial-arts have many physical techniques that need taught,learned, practiced, etc. I am curious, however, how many of our "do" arts (TaeKwonDo, TangSooDo, Hapkido, etc-do.) actually TEACH, or otherwise make available to the students information on making their art a "way" of living? << GM Joo Bang Lee: http://www.hwarangdo.com/philosophy.htm Carsten Jorgensen hwarangdo@email.com Copenhagen, Denmark - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ From: Carsten Jorgensen Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:37:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Gun Disarms George wrote: >> Has anyone seen a video series on gun disarms produced TRS (Threat Response Solutions). The instructors claim that through their trial and error research (using real handguns with wax bullets) they found that clearing the weapon to the inside of the attackers body (pushing on the back of the hand holding the weapon) will cause them to pull the trigger involuntarily much more so than clearing the weapon to the outside. I have never heard this before, do others use this principle in their handgun training? << Yes, Hwarang Do. But then, Randy Wanner's background is in Hwarang Do :-) Carsten Jorgensen hwarangdo@email.com Copenhagen, Denmark - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 8:18:16 PST Subject: the_dojang: Daito ryu Forwarding... Ray Terry ---------------------------------------------------------- 1ST INTENSIVE COURSE OF AIKIJUJUTSU IN USA. YAMAKAZE DOJO Decatur, Illinois We are delighted to share information that Mr. Certa, Shihan (a former direct student of the late Tokimune Takeda Dai Sensei) will be conducting the 1st Intensive Course here in the United States. The course dates are from March 31 through April 6, 2001. The Course will be conducted in Decatur, Illinois. This course is designed for people that have previously expressed a sincere interest in our school, but have not yet been afforded the opportunity to travel abroad for legitimate instruction in mainline Daito-ryu. This is not an open seminar, but a private course. Generally, the course is physically demanding, with an average training day consisting of 8 - 9 hours per day; over the span of the 7 day course. Furthermore, the course is traditionally limited to 6/8 particpants. The school is not interested in commercialism, but in obtaining people of good character and moral discretion for long term study of as students of Tokimune Takeda's family art. The Intensive Course will contain kata's from the Ikkajo Series of the Hidden Mokuroku Catalogue, Oyo waza as they pertain to this series, along with Introductory Kenjujutsu of the school. Doug Taylor illinois.usa@daito-ryu.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 8:19:32 PST Subject: the_dojang: what is.?. > I can't speak for "Hapkido" (whatever that is)... Just think of Hwarangdo, same thing. :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Carsten Jorgensen Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:39:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Hwarang Do videos etc. There was a post if anybody had seen the Hwarang Do videos - sorry I lost the original mail. The videos are not out yet, they are in the final stage of cutting, but you can sign up for them already. Rumour has it there's going to be lot's of great stuff. I have to say that after about posting on the_dojang for about six years, I'm VERY happy that I won't have to have people post that they "know what Hwarang Do is because they've read the books". Bruce, Dakin, Ray, Thomas, and Jeremy - I still have your mails on Hwarang Do. One more week of traveling, then I should have more time to post. Carsten Jorgensen hwarangdo@email.com Copenhagen, Denmark - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ From: Donnla Nic Gearailt Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:41:37 +0000 Subject: the_dojang: reflections on a tournament.... Hi, I attended the BSTF student nationals (WTF-style tournament) at Birmingham yesterday and I reflected on a few things I thought some of you might have opinions on (oh yes! I know you will). Now, in my club we do wtf-style sparring, as in, full contact, and continuous. This tournament was also this style. Now, something that struck me, was that a lot of injuries occurred during the course of the tournament, not nearly as many as if it was a rugby or american football tournament of course, but there you go. One guy took a full-strength back kick in the mouth and appeared to be spitting out his teeth, although it transpired that it was pieces of his mouthguard.... Another thing I noticed was that since it is so difficult to score an actual point, very few kicks other than back-leg turning kicks were tried (apart from the poor guy on the receiving end of the back kick above), this not just in the novice category, but also the higher coloured belt categories as well. Is this due to the nerves people suffer during tournaments, or is it due to the rules regarding scoring? Do as many injuries result in light-contact tournaments (with people getting over-enthusiastic) from kicking elbows and heads etc? I'd be interested to hear what you guys think. Donnla. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Donnla Nic Gearailt Computer Laboratory, New Museums Site, Graduate Student Pembroke St., Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. tel: +44-1223-334619 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dbn20/ "An eyelash! How could you be so careless!" - Jude Law, Gattaca ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 8:46:16 PST Subject: the_dojang: another list FYI, one of our other email distribution lists... Ray --------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you practice Eskrima/Kali/Arnis or some other Filipino martial art? If so, why not join the Filipino martial arts e-mail distribution list, the premier internet discussion forum devoted to the FMAs. Eskrima-Digest is a ~1200 member e-mail distribution list for the respectful discussion of the Filipino martial arts, for those wheresoever dispersed around the globe. ~7 years of continuous operation. The list is managed by "Majordomo". To subscribe to eskrima-digest send e-mail to the address; majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com with subscribe eskrima-digest in the BODY of the message, top line and left justified (not in the subject line). Also, make sure your e-mail is not in HTML format, use 'Plain Text' if using Outlook or Outlook Express. Brought to you by http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ------------------------------ From: SallyBaughn@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:25:40 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Changes to the WTF Rules Michael Rowe wrote: << What a crock of balony! 3 - 3 minutes rounds with a minute rest between them is not TOO long. The boxers and wrestlers deal with this time structure just fine. And lets not forget the Judo players they do just fine with their time system. >> I know I've seen boxers get booed by the fans if they "run out the clock" by clinching or avoiding a fight, and the few wrestling matches I've watched have, on occasion, been boredom personified. Since this is "sport" and not traditional "art," I don't see that it makes a major difference. If they did forms and tried to change them to appeal to the spectator, that would be another matter; but sport rules have always been a continuous, evolving kind of thing, especially when it comes to number and length of rounds. It didn't sound as if this was a change to benefit the players. It's more a matter of keeping spectator interest high while watching a match. Just a few thoughts to consider about this sport thing: IMO, what they haven't figured out is that most people aren't watching any of these matches just for love of the sport, they're emotionally involved with a player. Boxing happens to make "personalities" of the players and there's big money involved -- that's why there's so much interest in it. If TKD can build "personalities" and find a way to benefit top players, it'll have a better chance to become a popular sport. Otherwise, it's still going to be fun for family and friends, and we'll be like the wrestling families supporting our family and friends. Sally SallyBaughn@aol.com ------------------------------ From: hwkeyes98@excite.com Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:46:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Weapons training sites <> There are several good weapons links from www.simmudo.org that tell about various Hapkido weapons, Korean Sword arts and other Korean weapons in general. The sites take a while to download but it is worth the wait. Hope this helps. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:09:24 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #161 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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