From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #170 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 15 March 2001 Vol 08 : Num 170 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #168 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #169 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #169 the_dojang: KHF the_dojang: Re: Home Rules the_dojang: Dr. Hackworth the_dojang: Re: kid's home rules the_dojang: Korean Community the_dojang: Re: Note to Promote the_dojang: Korean dance the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: foxdragon@cuttingedge.net Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:44:00 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #168 Ken McD Wrote: > Response: I used to live in funky Chicago. Lived in Andersonville, which > is on Clark and Foster Avenues. Montrose is very near there. There is a > large Korean community over by Lawrence. The further you go, u run into > a large Polish community. I used to stop there and pick up a few Polish > sausages. Man, they were big. South of that is Broadway, mostly Hispanic. > Try the salsa salad bar at Pedro's Bar and Grill. > Oh Lord Ken, do not remind me of the food down there. I am still craving for a Mexican breakfast. And the deli store on Michigan Avenue. mm. Donna ------------------------------ From: "hackworth" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:55:42 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #169 Ray Terry wrote: "What I notice many are doing these days are claiming e.g. "9th Dan. Kukkiwon certified." Which usually means they are, oh say, 4th Dan Kukkiwon, but 9th Dan eBay." Richard Hackworth www.usnta.net Ray Terry wrote: "Can you explain what this Kukkiwon Academy is? I visited the International Academy, office of the VP, in the Kukkiwon a couple of years ago, but never heard of a Kukkiwon Academy. Is it perhaps the same as the Kukkiwon's International Academy?" Yes, it is the KukKiWon International Academy, he usually just says "Kukkiwon Academy" They conduct the instructors course and the masters course. However; it says World Taekwondo Kukkiwon Academy on the graduation certificate I received. So the name is subject to change depending who you ask. But the course is conducted at the Kukkiwon building if that clears up anything. Richard Hackworth www.usnta.net Bruce Sims wrote: " I would be very curious to know which if any of those 8th and 9th dans are supported by technical prowess and which are the organizational recognition that Richard mentioned in his post. Does anyone know if the Kidohae, Korea Hapkido, Korean Hapkido, etc., make their rosters available to inquiry. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to seek out certification from an organization unless one can then maintain a standing with that organization that others could verify, right? Even as I close this > off I feel like I need to tip-toe a bit. This whole rank thing has so much energy associated with it." The KoreA Hapkido Federation prints a directory that they distribute every year at their annual National Hapkido Demonstration. Free of charge to anyone who wants to pick one up from the display tables. If you are ever in the Orlando area you are welcome to see mine. I have Never seen any dojangs in Korea affiliated with the KoreaN Hapkido Federation. As far as the Korea Hapkido Association goes, I have never seen any directory of their masters in Korea. You can find a link to the Korea Hapkido Federation website at www.nationalhapkido.net . Richard Hackworth http://ma_success.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:08:13 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #169 Took my first Hapkido class purely by accident on Monday (I mistakenly walked in to a session and was asked to stay by the Master). Hat off to the DD members who can be thrown to the floor at lightening speed and still get up. (and not wince in pain ;o) ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:51:29 PST Subject: the_dojang: KHF >The KoreA Hapkido Federation prints a directory that they distribute every > year at their annual National Hapkido Demonstration. Free of charge to > anyone who wants to pick one up from the display tables. Dr. Hackworth, Can you tell us more about the KHF National Hapkido Demonstration? When/where is it held? > in Korea. You can find a link to the Korea Hapkido Federation website at > www.nationalhapkido.net . One para from the above website states: "First, the only Hapkido organization officially recognized by the Korean government is the Korea Hapkido . The KHF president is Oh, Se Lim. Irrespective of loose claims or connections to Choi, Yong Sool, the KHF is the only recognized Hapkido organization in Korea. There are a few tiny organizations that would try to convince you otherwise." I have it from a KHF 7th Dan, who took me to visit KHF Secretary General KIM Yong-jin at their offices (KHF = the Tae Han Hapkido Hyophwe), that they are not the only HKD org officially recognized by the Korean government. e.g. the Hankook Hapkido Hyophwe is also recognized. The KHF's claim is that they are the largest org, not the only org. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:03:44 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Home Rules In a message dated 3/15/2001 11:17:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << My experience is just the opposite. :) As someone agreed, they must come from EFC et al. >> Yes, that is where they originated. I find that if I have them follow the dojo rules and we practice respect for others ... it goes into their house as well. I am not going to make up rules for the dojo, rules for the home, rules for the school, rules for the grocery store, rules for riding in the car, rules visiting friends ... it just gets to be too much. Know what I mean ? Be a good example and they will be good examples for others too. Illona ------------------------------ From: "T. Kennelly" Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:13:52 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Dr. Hackworth > From: "hackworth" > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:03:21 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #167 > > KMAIA Hosted Events For 2001 > > > > May 5 TaeGukKwan: Korean Tai-Chi Instructors Certification Course with Dr. > Richard Hackworth in Ocoee, FL. Ph: 407-654-0555. > I just noticed you use the title of Dr. Do you have a doctorate degree and in what area or are you an MD? ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:51:27 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: kid's home rules these are the rules we use. these are from my old master and then elaborated upon. melinda Children's Home Rules 1. Children will at all times be respectful to others, especially their parents, elders and friends. 2. Children will at all times be truthful. 3. Children will strive for a good relationship with their brothers and sisters. 4. Children will willingly help with household chores without complaining. 5. Children shall be responsible for the upkeep and neatness of their own room. 6. Children shall abide by their parents' decisions. 7. Children shall not interrupt conversations. 8. Children shall refrain from rowdy behavior at home. 9. Children shall possess an active mind, body and spirit. 10. Children will diligently study their homework both at school and at home. 11. Children will at all times show respect for their schoolteachers and their peers. 12. Children will not practice martial arts in the house without parental permission and supervision. In a message dated 3/14/2001 12:38:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << From: "hackworth" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:59:16 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Home Rules For Children Some traditional TaeKwonDo Dojangs that I visited have a set of home rules for children. Do any of the DD members have a list of rules like that and where did this originate? Richard Hackworth www.jungdokwan.net hackworth@worldkeyonline.com >> Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply http://www.cjmas.com Proud Sponsor of the 10th Annual 2001 US Open Taekwondo Championships ------------------------------ From: Charles Richards Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:52:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Korean Community Bruce W Sims wrote <> If you guys are 3rd Atlanta must be second. We have a large Korean, Asian and Hispanic segment of town centered around Buford Highway and I285. We (Atlanta Hapkido) had the pleasure of showing Master Booth Seoul Garden (restaurant). Nothing like a great feast to negate all those carbs Hapkido burns . I was also at another restaurant across the street with Grand-master Shin, Jae Chul...kinda kewl watching him order our food in rapid fluent Korean . Anytime your in Atlanta we'll introduce you to some Korean food . And I would agree with Mr. Terry, just about every TKD School in the Atlanta phone book has a GM Kim (8th, 9th or 10th Dan) Regards, Charles R. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:00:49 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Note to Promote In a message dated 3/15/2001 7:08:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << On the standard application form, parents fill out this report before each test, and students submit a report of their grades from school. Black belts under age 18 are required to maintain at least a 3.0 grade point average. (I left off the 1-5 scale for each item in the interest of space) PARENT'S REPORT AND EVALUATION Our students should strive to follow the student home rules. >> We have something similar ... it is called a Note to Promote. It says : The main objective in martial arts is to develop well rounded students, not only in the dojang, but in society as well. Martial arts teaches the principles of Black Belt Excellence. Not only do students become black belts in martial arts, but they also strive to become academic black belts and eventually, corporate black belts or black belt employees. Martial arts uses black belt as a metaphor for personal, positive excellence. 1.) My son/daughter has been behaving in a respectful manner and cooperating at home. Yes or No 2.) My son/daughter has been practicing their martial arts techniques at home. Yes or No 3.) My son/daughter interacts appropriately with their peers. Yes or No 4.) My son/daughter is polite and courteous to adults. Yes or No 5.) My son/daughter is nice adn helpful with their siblings. Yes or No 6.) My son/daughter accepts responsibility for their own actions. Yes or No 7.) My son/daughter has acceptable grades in citizenship/responsibilities in school (no N's). Yes or No We also do not require report cards to be turned in anymore ... they may if they wish ... and we give them a star to put on the lapel of their uniform to indicate a job well done. But it isn't mandatory anymore. Respectfully, Illona ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:44:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Korean dance STILLNESS IN MOVEMENT: YI MAE BANG PERFORMS TRADITIONAL KOREAN DANCE April 25-May 4 The legendary Korean dancer Yi Mae Bang will make his U.S. debut as the featured performer in a tour organized by The Korea Society under the auspices of its on-going Old Roots-New Branches: Korean Performing Arts Series. Yi will be accompanied by ten senior members of his dance company. The program will introduce American audiences to a diverse array of traditional Korean dances. The Old Roots-New Branches: Korean Performing Arts Series is made possible, in part, by support from the Freeman Foundation. Each of the performances in the tour will be co-presented by The Korea Society and the respective collaborating venues. Program Description The program will feature dances from the folk tradition, which incorporate both Buddhist and Shamanic influences. The highlight of the program will be solo performances by Yi Mae Bang of his signature pieces, Sungmu and Salp'uri (see below). The accompanying dancers will present a representative array of traditional dances, including Sap'um Chong'gam ("Gentlemen Scholar's Dance), Kommu ("Sword Dance"), Mudangch'um ("Shaman's Dance"), Kiwonmu ("Supplication Dance") and Hwarangdo ("Flower Youth Movement Dance"). Dates & Venues April 25 ?8:00pm Concert Hall, Staller Center for the Arts State University of New York at Stony Brook Stonybrook, NY April 28 ?5:30pm Kaufman Theater American Museum of Natural History New York, NY April 30 ?7:30pm Terrace Theater The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts Washington, DC May 4 ?Time TBA Outreach College University of Hawai'i at Manoa Honolulu, HI About the Artist During a career spanning over 65 years, Yi Mae Bang has provided living testimony to the resilience of the Korean dance tradition during the most turbulent period of modern Korean history. A quintessential traditional Korean dancer, whose movements are considered to embody the ideal of a spiritualized inner energy, Yi also has played a unique role as a leading dance educator. His students constitute a veritable "Who's Who" in the contemporary dance field in Korea, and some are also actively pursuing careers in the United States and other parts of the world. Born in 1927 into the family of a famed dancer and teacher, Yi began his dance training as soon as he started to walk. From the age of five, he began his formal training in one of the traditional performing arts academies (kwonbon) which were the only institutionalized means for transmitting the traditional performing arts in Korea until the end of WWII. His training included the study of musical instruments and singing, as well as dance, which he studied under the tutelage of such famed dancers as Yi Chang Cho and Pak Yong Ku. Yi's early years were marked by intensive exposure to the dances of China, Japan and the West. At the same time, he worked to preserve the two most well known of all traditional Korean folk dances: Sungmu ("Monk Dance"), which comes from the Buddhist tradition, and Salp'uri ("Spirit-Cleansing Dance"), which stems from Shamanic rituals. Yi has been designated a Living National Treasure by the Korean government for his contributions to the preservation of these two major intangible cultural properties. It is a great honor to be designated for even one category; and being so designated in two categories is extremely rare. Among his numerous encounters with artists of different nationalities and genres, Yi received lessons from the renowned Chinese Peking Opera artist Mei Lan-fang. As a gesture of respect, Yi adopted the first and last characters of this artist's name as his own professional name: Mae (Chinese: Mei) and Bang (Chinese: Fang). His exposure to Western modern dance was through Pae Ki Ja, a pioneering Korean dancer who studied modern dance in Japan and provided Yi with his first opportunity to appear on stage. Yi's definition of the quintessential characteristics of traditional Korean dance is "stillness in movement" or "non-movement through movement." It is his intention to express the dichotomy of yin and yang, light and dark, and power and grace through the medium of dance. He expresses these opposing forces in dance and this dichotomy is manifested in movements that are at once effortless and light, forceful and strong. For further information, contact HyoSung Bidol at 212-759-7525, ext. 28 or hyosung.ny@koreasociety.org. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:26:54 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #170 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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