From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #200 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 29 March 2001 Vol 08 : Num 200 In this issue: the_dojang: Self-defense techniques for disable people the_dojang: Re: Police brutalizing overstepping thier bounds the_dojang: Have we got push ups for you the_dojang: Have we got push ups for you the_dojang: Experienced Whitebelts the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "critical care" Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:24:40 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Self-defense techniques for disable people Another black belt and I are going to be conducting four classes in April to children from our local School for the Deaf and Blind. There will be about ten students, some deaf, some blind and two that are in wheelchairs AND blind. We are hoping to get more volunteers so that each student can have more one on one training. I would welcome any helpful hints or suggestions from anyone that may be familiar with this type of instruction. Otherwise we are going to be relying on our own creativity. My oldest son is in a wheelchair so I have some insight, but not much when it comes to other disabilities. Thanks, Donna S. ------------------------------ From: "DanielC" Date: 28 Mar 2001 11:01:49 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Police brutalizing overstepping thier bounds >>> I agree with Jack 100% If you do as you are told, show proper respect, ie, yes sir, no sir, and don't act like an idiot, there is no problem at all <<< Unfortunately this isn't quite true, LEA's are as human as the next guy or gal, and every now and then you run into a bad one (or more likely a good one having a bad day) I've "yes sir, no sir, sorry officer"ed every time. Most of the time I got my ticket or warning and that was it. But once I got dragged out of my car, cuffed, thrown to the ground where I chewed gravel, then hauled to the local jail. I was quickly released and escorted out by a harried looking desk sargent who asked enough questions to figure out that I hadn't a clue as to what false arrest was at that point in my life. Everyone has bad days and makes mistakes. When I have a really bad one a few computers need some TLC. When an LEA has a really bad day the consequences are usually measured in broken humans, not broken machines. Assuming people are always perfect (whether its your master, or fiance, or LEA's), and "covering up" the little problems instead of addressing them helps major problems to form. The list of remedies 2 posts previous are in place to deal with problems while they are little, not just because bleeding heart liberals thought they might be a good idea. >>> the idiots who shoot of the old mouth and then cry when they get thumped <<< I think most on this list would agree that being the target of a "yo' mama" comment is not an excuse to bust out your latest technique and "teach a lesson", the same applies to LEA's. They enforce laws, not make, or judge them. There are plenty of "legal" ways (most politicians are more than happy to make new ones if the old don't seem to be enough) for lawbreakers to be dealt with, within the system, and subject to checks and balances. LEA administered "Thumpings" are not legal in any US jurisdiction that I know of. And even in places where they are (Hong Kong's caning, anyone know of any others?) they are controlled by the courts, and not the whims of those doing the enforcing. >>> oooohhh oooohhhh ,I'm calling a lawyer <<< The magic words, if you're just being harrased it puts everybody on notice that you know something about how the system works, and are aware of your rights. It helps keep those "little" problems caused by a bad day "little". - -- DanielC ------------------------------ From: "K T" Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:23:52 +1000 Subject: the_dojang: Have we got push ups for you Bill Our Master has us do all sorts of push ups. Knuckles - (perhaps obvious) a normal push up but done on knuckles Finger tip - (again obvious) a normal push up done on finger tips Forward extended - done with the hands to the front of the body Side extended - done with the hands wide of the body Close in - (sort of a tricep push up?)bring the hands close in under the chest and do a push up (I actually find these difficult) alternate one handed - as the name implies a push up done on one arm left x 10 and then right x 10 Reverse push up - (definite tricep pushup) butt to the ground, body straight and then bending at the elbow after that we start on leg punishment, duck walks and such. In short our master is very much into strengthening exercises. Trust this answers your query about push ups. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ From: "K T" Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:24:45 +1000 Subject: the_dojang: Have we got push ups for you Darn. Forgot to sign. Regards, Noel Doney _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ From: "Brian Woodard" Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:58:47 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Experienced Whitebelts I have a question for the instructors on the list. I will be moving this weekend to the East Coast int eh Charleston, SC area. I have several options open to me for MA schools. My question is this: How do your repsective dojangs handle a new student with experience. I realize that I will be a white belt again, and I will have to learn the new schools curiculum. If I had not moved I would have tested for 1st Dan this May. However with my experience, (3years) knowlege of the mechanics of kicking techniques, punching techniques, stances, forms, and sparring would I still advance at the same rate as a white belt with no prior MA experience? Thank you in advance for your comments, Brian Woodard _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 7:38:25 PST Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #200 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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