From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #246 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 19 April 2001 Vol 08 : Num 246 In this issue: the_dojang: Taekkyon the_dojang: Forced out by students the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:01:28 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Taekkyon More FYI... Taekkyon From http://www.viewkorea.co.kr Taekkyon is Korea's original martial art: unlike Taekwondo and Hapkido, which are products of the 1940s and '50s, it contains no Japanese influence and has a legitimate pre-colonial lineage. Extant Choson era paintings feature Taekkyun and Ssirum(Korean wrestling) contests, and the art was witnessed by 19th Century Western travelers, alongside other curious Korean traditions, such as headbutting and stone throwing competitions. What is it, exactly? Like it's modern equivalents, it includes a full arsenal of kicking techniques, which range from ankle to head height, plus a wide repetoire of sweeping and throwing techniques. Unlike the more mechanical, forceful and angular motions of modern martial arts, however, it's circular motions are applied with a dance-like rhythm. This soft aspect of Taekkyun makes it suitable for all ages, and harks back to a kinder, gentler Korea. Taekkyun's roots are in the warrior arts of Shilla and Koguryo, but the fact that the present art contains no traditional weapons forms (sword, spear) goes against this. What is certain is that the art fell out of favor during the Choson period when physical activity was frowned upon, resulting in the art becoming a farmer's or folk activity. Now that it has been resurrected, it is probably more popular now than at any time in the last several hundred years. It's surprising renaissance may also force a reappraisal of Taekwondo's background. Like Samulnori, Taekkyun has found wide favor on university campuses, and appeals to a wide range of age groups. As a health regimen Taekkyun is highly excellent, utilizing rhythmic breathing and lacking the joint jarring motions common in other martial arts. On the self-defense front, it's range of techniques and versatile sparring formats make it very effective. ------------------------------ From: SungPaeKi@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:11:31 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Forced out by students I have a dilema that I would like to share with everyone. I now teach tae kwon do for my first instructor that I have known, and trained with for more than 10 years. Since last summer when I returned from the Marine Corps I have been the sole teacher in his class. He pops in every now and then and teaches if I cannot make it, but otherwise I'm the only one. It's pretty much non-profit or negative profit, I think he actually pays for some of the rent out of his own pocket. I don't get paid to teach, and thats okay, I knew that from the start. My problem is that I teach different than he does. I teach a little more strict and alot more technical than he does, mostly because I was instructed in Hapkido through another instructor after I had left his school. The class that I teach is mostly kids about 8-13 years old. When I began teaching for him, I felt that his students were doing alot of techniques wrong, and were not getting enough knowledge about tae kwon do such as; history, korean terminalogy, discipline, etc. So I taught things my way and it took some of the kids awhile to adjust, and I changed some things also, so it wouldn't be so much of a shock for them. I have two problem children, like I'm sure alot of you out there do, they are brothers, and to put it lightly spoiled brats. They have no respect for discipline and do not attempt to improve and I tend to hound them alot on their technique and enthusiasm. The problem that I have is that they disrupt the class, don't participate, fight and play with each other, and they're even worse when they're mother comes into class to watch. Lets just say they sit out of class sometimes and make everyone do alot of push ups, I usually don't punish just them, I have the whole class do push up's or whatever when they are screwing up. Lately they have asked to sit out saying they're sick or that they don't feel up to participating in class. They havn't showed up for a couple weeks though. Last night I got a call from my instructor. He said that he had talked to the boys' mother, and that she had said that her kids did not want to come anymore when I was teaching, because they don't feel comfortable with me, then he called other parents of the kids in class to ask them what their children thought of me, he told me that there were no other complaints. My instructor then suggested that I teach on Tuesdays and that he would teach on the Thursdays. He said that he didn't want me around them anymore, and that I couldn't even come to the Thursday classes, not even to just work out. I had a few choice words, and I told him he was selling me out over a couple kids that don't want to learn. I don't want to get into all of the specifics of the conversation, but basically, he would rather turn his back on me, someone that he has known for 10 years, and someone who is helping him out, and letting this kids mother run the school. I guess I just don't know what to do, I feel that I should quit teaching for him, but I have some really great kids in the class that have alot of talent, that I want to see grow into great martial artists. I just wanted to know if any of you out there have any advice for me? Sorry for the long post. Ki hap Joshua Sungpaeki@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 8:54:45 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #246 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.