From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #295 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 14 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 295 In this issue: the_dojang: MD / PA HapKiDo Seminar the_dojang: The Bold Look the_dojang: Tournament in Waltham, MA on July 14th the_dojang: Judo fyi... the_dojang: hapkido books the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #293 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #294:Re: GM Ji the_dojang: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #293:David vs Goliath the_dojang: Taking Down the "Big Dude" the_dojang: Taking on the Big Fellas the_dojang: Seattle Shooting the_dojang: Dangun Myth, the birth myth of Korea the_dojang: Re: martial arts and invulnerability the_dojang: Re:Book Stuff the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. R. West" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:42:01 +0000 Subject: the_dojang: MD / PA HapKiDo Seminar Dear list members: Mrs. Master West and I will be conducting a one day HapKiDo seminar at Global HapKiDo in Hampstead, MD on Saturday, June 9th. If anyone has an interest in finding out more about it, contact Mr. Joe Borucki at master@globalhapkido.com . I look forward to seeing everyone there.....J. R. West www.hapkido.com ------------------------------ From: "Michael Rowe (outlook)" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:56:16 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: The Bold Look Does anybody have any information regarding the Bold Look, a martial arts company in Florida. The Phone numbers that I have do not seem to be working and I NEED to get my last order from them ASAP. Michael Rowe Dan Il Kwan - Gym of Unity Unity Church of Omaha 3424 N 90th Street Omaha, Nebraska 68134 ------------------------------ From: "Meghan Gardner" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:46:23 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Tournament in Waltham, MA on July 14th Guard Up, Inc. is hosting an open martial arts tournament on Saturday, July 14th for colored belts and beginners only. This competition has been created specifically for those who have never competed or with little tournament experience. As a result, this competition will not provide large, flashy trophies (only engraved medallions), no cash prizes (but our entrance fees are low), and no credits to national rankings (only the chance to compete in a professional and friendly environment. Please note, that in an effort to make this tournament enjoyable by all, unsportsmanlike conduct *will* result in immediate disqualification/removal from premises. So ranting coaches should stay at home. For more information or to register with credit card, visit our website: http://www.guardup.com/kyu.htm Hope to see you there. Meghan Gardner Director Guard Up, Inc. www.guardup.com "Always carry love in your heart, and a knife in your pocket." me ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:13:19 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Judo fyi... May 18-20 the European Judo Championships will take place at Paris' POPB. These will feature Europe's best in their respective weight class. Follow the event live at http://www.sportspie.com, in the Judo section. Daily interviews, and live coverage will be available. See you there. Chat will also be available with the reporters and other Judo fans. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Peter Kim" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:53:12 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: hapkido books Hello, I have just started learning Hapkido and TaeKwonDo. I have studied TKD long time ago (22 yrs ago), but Hapkido is rather new to me. I was looking for a book for Hapkido, and found a book called "Hapkido" by Marc Tedeschi. Does anyone have this book? How do you like it? Book looks very nice, but I read some mixed review on this book. Any information will be helpful. Thanks, Peter Kim ------------------------------ From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:03:13 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #293 The comments made by the rather annoying individual who cited that we would all be destroyed seemed somewhat pointless, but I still feel compelled to comment... One of the major fundamental elements of Martial Arts is that the practitioner is NOT defenseless. I may be beaten to death by a larger, violent person, but the fact of the matter is that my training grants me a better chance of escaping the situation thus allowing me to preserve what I hold so dear...life. Narrowminded/un-realistic people may honestly believe that they can 'destroy' anyone by using MA techniques, but those of us with our sanity intact realize that is not what the Art(s) are about. I am not training for war. I train because I enjoy the art. I have absolutely no ridiculous notions about my ability. I actually had some drunken fool (male, 25-30 muscular and asinine) ask me to fight him in the street this weekend. He heard that I train and I suppose his over abundance of testosterone got the best of him. Sober and annoyed me (female, 26, 135 lb. and witty) told him that "I do not fight with out cause, that is against the principles of training, but if provoked, well, I hope you are not allergic to my pepper-spray and can withstand a swift kick to your %&$#*" Yours in Realism- Cheree ------------------------------ From: David Beck Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:06:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #294:Re: GM Ji Rick, Can you tell us anything more about the book? What sorts of differences are planned from the Hapkido Bible? Is it as ambitious, a set of different volumes, planned hard or softcover? With this new school will he be staying based in the US instead of going back to his home town in Korea as was planned before? BTW, I recently picked up a copy of the movie 'Hapkido' (aka Lady Kung-Fu) on ebay. Very interesting to see GM Ji with a mustache! And the smoothness and level of skill that comes through in his scene -- just beautiful. Highly recommended. The expression on Samo Hung's face after the spin kick arm lock alone was worth what I paid for it. David N. Beck Internet:dbeck@usa.alcatel.com WATT Lead Engineer Alcatel USA 1000 Coit Road Plano, Texas 75075 ** Opinions expressed are not those of Alcatel USA ** ------------------------------ From: Kevin Janisse Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #293:David vs Goliath Hi again! This seems like fun! You know coming up with different situations to determine if there is a (best) way to deal with it. Myself, I'm 5'10" @ 150 pound, scarcely any fat. I have about 18 years of martial arts experience (mostly Korean). I have even trained for strongman competitions and performed quite well. During that time I developed a great deal of power when incorporated into MA Technique. While I was doing MA and Stregth training I was able to meet and hear stories of other people dealing with situations and I will breifly share some vital areas that are lost when dealing with above average male humans. 1. A neck can be broken easier than an elbow except when they have no neck i.e. Traps that touch the ear. 2. A proffesional strongman develops muscle that encases the throat area. 3. The groin, it will only make them MAD! The fact of the matter is, fight only if you HAVE to, I would be the one you would read in the paper "Man dies protecting his family" or "Man escapes Mugger". If you THINK you could win you have already lost. Life is too short to be concerned with "How tough am I", yet I will admit it has crossed my mind. Live long and prosper, (seems fitting) Kevin M. Janisse _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ From: "Alagna, Steven M" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:22:03 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Taking Down the "Big Dude" IMHO, there are 3 things you can do in a situation with the big fella: 1. Run (Very Fast!) 2. Talk your way out of it. Calm the situation down. Anger management etc. If not 1 or 2, then 3. Fight. If you do have to fight, Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS), hit 1st, hit hard, hit fast. Targets should be the eyes, throat/neck, solar plexus, groin, knees. Hit him with elbows, palms heels, knees, and feet. I would suggest using your feet only for the knees and groin. Throw away all the fancy smancy BS. You don't have to be particularly skilled or a powerhouse for these to be effective and one of these targets is usually open. Strip down your MA to its most basic elements and I think you will find good solid tools to use. Remember, you cannot hesitate! Go fluffy with elbows and knees. You may or may not drop the guy, but at least you can stun him or stop him for a second to run. You can also use anything that's around you; sticks, bottles, bats, dirt in the eyes etc. Be resourceful. What bothers me is that there a lot people who are lulled into this false sense that hey I take TKD and really feel that I can protect myself and may be in more danger than a non-MA. I don't believe that practicing forms, kicking, punching, combinations there of, or one-steps is going to help anybody unless they can apply the simplest of techniques under an adrenal situation. I'm not talking about tournaments either. I'm talking about heart-pounding, life-threatening, sweaty palm moments when most people tend to freeze and can't even speak. Think about public speaking. Most people hate it. Why?? They tend to freeze up, can't speak properly, forget what they are going to say etc. and they are in no danger of bodily harm. It's that adrenal rush that affects them. How do they get better, put themselves in that situation often. I'm not saying you should go out and look for fights, but most MA schools do not practice under such situations. A year or 2 ago, I stood face-to-face with a known drug dealer punk, who lives across from me, in the middle of the street. My heart was pounding, felt myself shaking and the whole bit and this guy was smaller than me. If he decided to sucker punch me, there would be nothing I could do about it. The answer there is to distance yourself. Luckily I was able to calm this guy down and we parted ways. If you haven't actually been in this type of situation, I don't think you can truly answer that you can handle it. You just don't know what you would do. The only advice that I have in my most humblest of opinions is beside your normal MA workout, practice hitting 1st, fast, and hard to vital points. See about getting some adrenal stress training. Have Fun! Steven M. Alagna ------------------------------ From: "Alagna, Steven M" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:28:39 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Taking on the Big Fellas Funny, I just received the below from a survival-defense list that I'm on. "Just something to ponder while you decide which techniques to select as part of your training regime. Recently I was reading one of those magazine's devoted to NHB events. In it are described all the matches, offering blow by blow commentary. In one of the fights, two fighters (a Japanese and another guy of unknown origin) were going at it hammer and tongs. Elbows, punches, submission holds. Tit for tat. Each countering the others hold or surviving the blow. This goes on for several minutes, when suddenly, one of the fighters accidentally knees the other in the groin. That fighter drops like a sack of bricks and the fight is stopped for 5 minutes allowing him time to recover. Now, after all the other techniques fail to stop him, a knee to the groin flattens him. How would such a technique fair against the average thug in the street? BTW, the aforementioned magazine is just hit the newsstands. Its called Grappling, I think. Put out by either Inside Kung Fu or Black Belt Bill Duke" I firmly believe in the groin kick!! Steven M. Alagna Senior Packaging Engineer, Product Engineering, Reseller Products Group Intel Corporation DuPont, WA Phone: (253) 371-9296 Pager: (253) 687-2305 ------------------------------ From: "Wallace, John" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:28:28 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Seattle Shooting Hi all: I came across a link to the following story on the USTU website. Has anyone heard anything new on it? - -John Wallace 2nd gup, TKD - -----------snip------------ SEATTLE, 3:52 p.m. CDT April 30, 2001 -- Seattle police have identified the Minnesotan killed early Sunday morning when someone opened fire on the SUV carrying eight members of a Maple Grove martial arts team in the city for a tournament. Mark Acaley, 25, of Minneapolis, was killed in the incident that Seattle police are saying was an apparently random act of violence. Another team member was treated for a gunshot wound to the leg and released from the hospital Sunday morning. Acaley, a top graduate of Hibbing High School, was a bond trader in Minneapolis after graduating from Yale University, his family told WCCO 4 News. Others in the vehicle immediately began CPR on Acaley, and continued until he was rushed to a nearby hospital. Others in the vehicle said they hadn't had any confrontations with anyone, and didn't provoke the attack. The incident began in an area of Seattle known as Chinatown. The team was in the area after leaving a bar. They were at a stop sign in downtown Seattle when a man fired the shots into the team's SUV from what police say is a green Honda at about 2:20 a.m. Sunday. "Never would expect it, I guess. It's one of those things you see on TV and never think it's you going to happen to you," teammate Joel Hart said. Seattle police are still seeking suspects in the shooting. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:17:18 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Dangun Myth, the birth myth of Korea from http://www.korea.com According to the Three Kingdoms history books, Hwanung was the son of Hwanin, the god of the sky. Hwanin discovered that his son had always desired to go down into the world, and gave him three cheonbuin, or certificates verifying Hwanung's bloodline, and the right to rule over the world. These Cheonbuin were later passed to Dangun, who founded Gojoseon. Hwanung went down to the world with these Cheonbuin and 3000 ministers, arriving below the place called Sindansu at the top of Mt. Taebaeksan. He built a village named Sinsi. He ruled over the world together with the gods of wind, rain and clouds and everything went well. At this time a bear and tiger which lived in the Sinsi village asked Hwanung to make them human. So he took wormwood and 20 bunches of garlic and kept them in a cave for 100 days without sunlight. The bear stayed for twenty-one days and became a beautiful woman. However, the tiger gave up in a few days. Ungnyeo (the bear woman) desired to conceive and prayed every day in front of Sindansu. After Hwanung saw this, he changed himself to a handsome man and was married to Ungnyeo, who gave birth to Dangun, the father of Korea. Dangun grew up, founded Gojoseon (BC 2333) in Pyeongyang and ruled for more than 1,500 years. There is also a story that he became the god of mountains when he was 1908 years old. ------------------------------ From: JSaportajr@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:29:48 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: martial arts and invulnerability We had a sad example this weekend in Massachusetts on how ultimately vulnerable we all are, including great martial artists. There was a young man name Luis Ayala, 23 yo, and a very talented boxer. He was five time NewEngland Golden Gloves Champion and was scheduled to begin a professional boxing career next year. Over this weekend, someone stole his cousin's car in Lowel MA.. Luis saw the car later at an intersection, being driven by an 18 yo kid and he went up to the car to confront the kid. The kid shot him three times and now Luis is dead. I think that this story was meaningful to me because there was a time, perhaps when I was twenty-three, a black belt and quite over confident when in the same situation I would have done the same thing, I would have marched up to the car and confronted the kid too. I wonder how many martial arts instructors make it a point to influence kids who can be arrogant and stupid as I was to not make a similar mistake. Jose ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:08:38 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re:Book Stuff Dear Dave: "...Hey guys, here's your chance to plug your work...." Thanks for the invite, but its a whole lot easier if folks just visit Amazon.Com and read the material there. I'm open to questions if that will help, but in the end people see what they want to see in the books they pick up.I know of at least one person who thinks that GM Hans' book was the defining work on Hapkido.(Not.) ( BTW: The CD-s are just about ready and should come out at quite a savings through Ingram.) Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:34:18 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #295 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.