From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #296 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 15 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 296 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #293 the_dojang: USKMAF seminars the_dojang: Re:Is there a devil in these details? the_dojang: Re:Various and sundry the_dojang: Re:No Brain; no pain-- Put 'em to work! the_dojang: Me versus Goliath the_dojang: HRD website the_dojang: Re: The Bold Look the_dojang: GM Ji and Funky Philly (Little Italy and Food) the_dojang: Bars and Sucker Punches; Wasted Days and Wasted Nights the_dojang: GM Ji's Videos and Book the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beungood@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:05:14 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #293 << SARAH wrote: Sarah Pride Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:47:50 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Self-Defense vs. Goliath I am a fairly sturdy female, 5' 5.5" tall and weighing approx. 145 lbs. I use the word 'sturdy,' because I am not fat, yet I am not a slender wraithlike being. I'm sturdy. And fast. One day last year I found myself using this speed in a game of Ultimate Frisbee, trying desperately to grab a flying frisbee before this human mountain (6'+ tall, lots of pounds, barrel-shaped) did. I soared into a beautiful leap, snatched the frisbee - then dropped it, as I bounced off the guy's unmoving side like a pebble thrown at the side of a cliff. He calmly caught the frisbee and lumbered off in the opposite direction, as I blinked the stars from my eyes and wondered what year it was. He apparently had not even felt the impact. Anyway, I have wondered many times since what actual use my Tae Kwon Do would be in a situation against such a monolith. Practically none, I decided, so it is a good thing that I have many different reasons for studying TKD. I would do far better in any self-defense situation than I would have before I began learning TKD, but I imagine that my best defense is still my speed. For running away. :)>>> I think your techniques used against a "monolith" would work good if you had the right "mindset" and were thinking tactically when you picked the right targets to use them against. Are you kicks strong enought to surprise, hurt or disable if you fired them against his knee, grion, floating ribs, zyphoid process (top of abdomen over diaphram) or temple? Part of a ggod defense or use of your skill is sound planning and picking of the areas that would help make up for your lack of size or strength... Just my .02 cents.... JackO ------------------------------ From: "rich hodder" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:36:52 Subject: the_dojang: USKMAF seminars Masters West, I am sorry I will not be able to attend your seminar at Global Hapkido in Maryland as I will be conducting a TKD seminar at Mst. Kuns school( USKMAF affiliate) in Seabrook TX on the same day. I hope you have a great seminar as always. Rich _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:51:54 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re:Is there a devil in these details? Dear jeremy and Dakin et al: "...This site is definetly a site to promote Hwarangdo. Though they put historical information into it, it does have some errors...." Thanks for your thoughts. I caught some of the big ones like the one that Jeremy mentioned about HwaRang warriors taking the Korean art to China. What I was thinking of were some of the other items like the names of the various Kwan and Arts as associated with particular practitioners. Does it seem that most of these are accurate? I would especially like to hear Carstens' take on this as the only other informed opinion that I have mucho regard for is Dr Kimms'. The overall tenor of the site seemed oriented towards showcasing HwaRangDo. Nothing wrong with that, however I was more interested in veracity of the details than the particular philosophy or affiliation. I'm all ears. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:03:22 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re:Various and sundry Dear Peter: "...found a book called "Hapkido" by Marc Tedeschi. Does anyone have this book? How do you like it? ..." I have been advised that the "lay down date" (date at which the book is available from publisher) for the PP version of the Tedeschi book is May 15th. I have an order in with Borders Books and will be looking forward to seeing what all the interest is about. I have seen M Choes' books and couldn't see why anyone would pay good money for them unless it was a matter of picking up a few Hapkido tricks as an adjunct to some other art. On the other hand I recently purchased a number of Daito-ryu books and one on hojo-jutsu (binding) though they are all in Japanese (gee, what were the chances). It will be slow going until my Japanese gets back to something passable. There were also some great sword titles by the same resource (also in Japanese). BTW: I have been digging around a bit with Toyama-ryu and the military connection to the sword material introduced to Korea in the late 1800-s. Also have two or three bi-lingual resources for people who are seeking a book connection in Korea courtesy of the cultural section of the Korean Embassy in Washington, DC. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:20:25 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re:No Brain; no pain-- Put 'em to work! Dear Cheree: "...Narrowminded/un-realistic people may honestly believe that they can 'destroy' anyone by using MA techniques, but those of us with our sanity intact realize that is not what the Art(s) are about. I am not training for war. I train because I enjoy the art. I have absolutely no ridiculous notions about my ability...." I am right there with you. What I simply can't understand is why that position is so damn hard for folks to absorb. Its not as though such a philosophy is new here or on any othe Net. Its not as though you are saying it for the first time or have just conceived of it in the last day or so. There was a fella from my area that wrote a letter to BLACK BELT magazine, I think, and was advocating for tournament play with the belief that teaching people about competition is what our society is all about. He went on to talk about how we compete for everything so its good to start teaching people competition early. Where does this crap come from? Everything or any worth thats been accomplished in our culture has been the product of cooperation. Try building something (car, bridge, building) with all the workers competing against each other. Try policing a city or fighting a war using competition as the dynamic. I think this position has a whole lot more to do with somebody's personal axe than the reality of MA. I still say that if one of our testosterone-driven friends thinks that fighting is what its all about how come they aren't out riding the subways with the GUARDIAN ANGELS looking for bad guys to bust? How about taking a walk over to one of the local crack-houses and cleaning it out for us? Remember those hulking behemothes we've been talking about? OK, their bad. Now lets send 'em over to the west side here in Chicago and have them do their public a service. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: SungPaeKi@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:13:46 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Me versus Goliath It seems that everyone is worried about this subject, and it's been a problem since the beginning of time. Yes, its good to make a tactical plan, and yes, you should figure out what techniques suit you for the situation. Although one thing I think we are forgetting to discuss is attitude (Ki-Maek). It is basic self defense to know that if you look like a target that is what you'll be. A lot of what I have learned from Hapkido training and "train as you fight, fight as you train" attitude, is that if you train your mind to forget about the size and just act with determination, you'll be far better off than if you rely on your doubts. I'm not condoning fighting, all be it, run if you can, but if you get into a situation where you have to fight, give it your all, know that its life or death, show the determination on your face, do not hesitate. If someone that is attacking you, big or not, sees that you are prepared to die to defend yourself, and determined at all costs to ! win maybe he'll get second thoug hts himself. I know I have avoided several fights myself with this attitude, and it comes in handy at my current job as a corrections officer. Bully's thrive off of people that are afraid of them, if you show that you are not, maybe they will leave you alone, and if not tear them apart. I don't think I can beat any pro-wrestler or football player in a fight but if I have no choice I'm going to try my damnedest to take charge of the situation and destroy him. I know I'm probably preaching to the choir with this, I just felt that it wasn't discussed yet. The 2 rules to fighting are: 1. Always Cheat 2. Always Win Joshua Cather 2nd Dan Tae kwon do 1st Dan Hapkido SungPaeKi@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:55:19 PDT Subject: the_dojang: HRD website > The overall tenor of the site seemed oriented towards showcasing HwaRangDo. As I believe JT or someone pointed out, it is clearly an obvious copy of part of the HRD website. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 00:30:55 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The Bold Look In a message dated 5/14/2001 4:10:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Does anybody have any information regarding the Bold Look, a martial arts company in Florida. The Phone numbers that I have do not seem to be working and I NEED to get my last order from them ASAP. >> Yes, what is up with that, I wonder ? They left a message on my machine that the order I placed is now on back order and then I tried to call them but it won't go thru ! Illona ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 04:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: GM Ji and Funky Philly (Little Italy and Food) Ray Terry noted: Response: I was recently in "Funky" Philly on my way to Atlantic City. Do a little "all you can eat" buffet thing with the gambling. So, I stop in South Philly and visit the "Rocky" statute, and walk around in Little Italy. Still one of the few places that has a vibrant Italian community. Reminded me of the old neigborhood. Where else can you find a place that still makes their own pasta. A store that has nothing but cheese for sale. I mean hugh pieces of cheese hanging from the ceiling. Great for the heart. Nice little market where they sell fish and vegetables. Good pizza. A coupla boxing gyms. There is also a big martial arts supply store in downtown Philly. Stopped off at this one famous place where I picked up a nice Philly Cheesesteak. It had to be famous since there were all these pictures from guys with names like "Big Louie", Tony the "Chin" , Frank "The Crazy One", Bobbie "Gobala-Gul", Joey "Go Break a Leg", and a few Hollywood Movie Stars. Nothing like a Philly Cheesesteak from Philly with the onions and secret sauce dripping down your fingers and up your forearms. I get excited when knee deep in grease and old fashioned french fries. In sum, would be nice to visit GM Ji's Dojang, pick up a few Philly Cheesesteaks on the way there, and recall my wasted youth. Is there a thriving Korean community there where I could pick up some freshly made Kimchee ? In fact, I just met this nice Korean lady whose mother makes fresh Kimchee. Only $5 to $10 for a large jar. Goes good with rice and beef strips cooked over a grill. Cheers, McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 04:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Bars and Sucker Punches; Wasted Days and Wasted Nights Cheree wrote, in part: Response: Reminds me of the late, great Freddy Fender, wherein he sang "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights." Many untold stories of bars, bratwurst and as my friend used to call em "broads" (personally, I use the term ladies and women). Bars, liquor, and women. The themes for fighting in the street. I recall one night when it was almost closing time and you know u had a few when that ugly guy or girl sitting down the end of the bar starts looking good to ya. I am looking at the suddenly beautiful lady and some ugly guy thinks I am lookin' at him. He wants to fight. I left since I had been there done that before. Now, by pocketing my ego, I did not have to do any Judo verbal stuff. Call it the Zen of survival. But, a lot less stress. Just like I used to flip the bird in cars at bad drivers. I don't do that no more. "De-escalate not exacerbate" is my current theme song. But, nowadays as my friend George Thorogood (and the Delaware Destroyers) says, "I drink alone." Seriously, look at the Peyton Quinn video called "Sucker Punches". Most of the time you get sucker punched in a bar. And all that chop suey stuff you learned will be out the door when the bouncer is picking u up from the sawdust covered floor. Point: Don't get into verbal confrontations. "Be a thinker, not a stinker." (Source: Apollo Creed, Rocky I). Oh, well. Time for those breakfast burritos. I use Phazyme prior to the onslaught of burrito intake. It has 180 grams of Simethicone per tablet. Better than Beano. McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: mtomlins@mail.volusia.k12.fl.us Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:11:55 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: GM Ji's Videos and Book Hey I have a great idea, everyone who is interested in getting a video and book from Doju Nim Ji but are tired of waiting why don't you spend the money to go and get on the mat with him. I am not trying to be rude or anything, and when he finishes the book and video I'll be one of the first to buy them but there is no way on earth that anything he puts in a book or on video can equal what he has taught me personally on the mat at Master Nabor's dojang in Tampa. All the other info can do for me is reaffirm what I have seen and heard from Doju Nim. I say open your eyes to Hapkido and get on the MAT with him!! Seeing is believing, but in Hapkido seeing AND feeling is believing! Michael Tomlinson ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 6:59:51 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #296 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.