From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #297 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 15 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 297 In this issue: the_dojang: Kumdo/Kendo in Indiana the_dojang: USKMAF seminars the_dojang: Re: Bars and Sucker Punches; Wasted Days and Wasted Nights [none] the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #296 the_dojang: Get your pink panties out of a wad! the_dojang: Seek out instruction the_dojang: Re: Joon M. Jee books the_dojang: RE: Possible Emergency the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jere-hilland" Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:44:38 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Kumdo/Kendo in Indiana I do not know where Crown Point is, but the Hapkido Self Defense Center is on I-74 just across the state line outside on Cincinnati (exit 1 on the OH side). We are open every day but Sunday and while we are a hapkido only dojang and we do not practice modern/sport sword (gumdo) techniques, we do practice the traditional sword technique (gumsool/gumbop). Jere R. Hilland www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul <> ------------------------------ From: "jere-hilland" Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:50:58 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: USKMAF seminars Master Hodder stated that he will not be able to attend, Unfortunately I to will not be able to attend as the new dojang is taking all my free time. I am looking forward to a break in August to go to Jackson. If any one in the East US (although I travel from the Midwest) plans on attending the seminar in Maryland - I highly recommend it! Jere R. Hilland www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul ------------------------------ From: "Lasich, Mark D." Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:55:18 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Bars and Sucker Punches; Wasted Days and Wasted Nights Reminds me of the "art of fighting, without fighting" - I know that Bruce Lee used this thought, but I also recently learned of the similar Japanese tale of the "No sword Method". Either way, by using your mind you may be able to avoid a confrontation. But once engaged, don't let your thoughts impede your actions! Mark Lasich mark.lasich@alcoa.com ------------------------------ From: Neal Konecky Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] An interesting case came up in the NY courts. As it was reported on the radio, there was a dispute that occured in a parking garage. In relevant part, the defendant, approximately 6'3", 230lbs., punched an old man in the face. The old man fell and hit his head causing fatal injuries. The defendant was charged with third degree assault, a misdemeanor. The reason for this is that the courts have held that punching someone one time is not an intent to cause serious physical harm. Since there was no intent to cause serious harm, manslaughter was not deemed to be an appropriate charge. There is one major exception carved out for martial artists. It is the same exception used for ordinary people who use a weapon. Just thought this may be helpful. Neal Konecky ===== "Our government, conceived in freedom and purchased with blood, can be preserved only by constant vigilance" William Jennings Bryan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Donnla Nic Gearailt Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:01:46 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #296 > >From: Ken McDonough >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 04:44:40 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: the_dojang: Bars and Sucker Punches; Wasted Days and Wasted Nights > > >Seriously, look at the Peyton Quinn video called "Sucker Punches". Most >of the time you get sucker punched in a bar. And all that chop suey >stuff you learned will be out the door when the bouncer is picking u >up from the sawdust covered floor. Point: Don't get into verbal >confrontations. "Be a thinker, not a stinker." (Source: Apollo Creed, >Rocky I). Re getting picked on in bars: I have found that one of the more irritating things about my non-martial arts practicing friends is that they tend to tell everyone in my local bar that I am a "killing machine" lol. However they have never seen me fight in a tournament and don't know how much I stink! When a guy asks me if I could kick his ass I always say," oh no, I mean a big strong guy like you could kick my ass any time" - this usually flatters his ego and the guy doesn't feel like picking a fight with me to prove his manhood so to speak. Having said that I know that no seriously dangerous types drink at my local (the one and only rock bar in Cambridge). The only confrontational situation I was in recently there was when a kid in this bar (who was real puny and I knew was drunk and unarmed) threatened to beat up one of my (male) friends because another (female) friend had refused his advances. I offered to rip off his testicles and shove them down his throat, an offer he politely declined. I don't think he took me seriously though :-). I had no intention of making good on said promise, although a quick arm lock and a gesture to security to throw him out would have done the trick in the event of him trying anything. McD, I suggest you choose your drinking haunts more carefully! Go places frequented uniquely by weak, puny guys, and you'll have no problems :-). Donnla. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Donnla Nic Gearailt Computer Laboratory, New Museums Site, Graduate Student Pembroke St., Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. tel: +44-1223-334619 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dbn20/ "An eyelash! How could you be so careless!" - Jude Law, Gattaca ------------------------------ From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:53:55 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Get your pink panties out of a wad! Maybe it's just me, but..... It seems as if we have a few people around here who have gotten a bit peeved over the innocent observation that having to fight a large muscular athlete would present somewhat of a critical challenge to the "average" martial artist. Some of these responses have ranged from venomous sarcasm to outright insult of the original poster. The ironic thing is that all this flame and foot-stomping seems to be coming from the same people who claim that their training is for purposes other than "just fighting". Yeah, that's quite obvious...we can really see the character development aspect at work what with all these level-headed responses... In regards to the original post...some have asked "what's the point?" I thought the point was very simple...Duane Johnson (aka, The Rock) would snap your scrawny neck in a straight up fight. Very simple. Now, if this fact bothers you then there are several courses of action that you can take. 1. Anabolic steroids and/or Human Growth Hormone. 2. Get off the internet and go train. 3. Go sit in the corner and throw a fit. 4. Fire off a brilliant e-mail that somehow manages to insult the original poster while at the same time extolling one's own "high and mighty" motivations for training. Does option 4 look familiar to some of you? I'm really sorry that some of us train for fighting (in all it's sundry forms), and competition. I know this doesn't sit well with some of you since the ideas of violence and competition have no place in your normative fantasies in which everyone is striving for self-perfection, and bastardized Japanese martial arts are the "one true road" to enlightenment. Please forgive us for wondering if those inside-to-outside crescent kicks would really stop Stone Cold Steve Austin in his tracks (say THAT 3 times very fast). Maybe someday we'll grow up. In the meantime...some of you need to locate your third eye, connect the chakras, lose that extra five pounds, and CHILL OUT! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Michael Rowe (outlook)" Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:54:04 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Seek out instruction <> Hey it is a great idea! As a matter of fact why not also go visit GM Seo when he is in the country. Michael Rowe Dan Il Kwan - Gym of Unity Unity Church of Omaha 3424 N 90th Street Omaha, Nebraska 68134 ------------------------------ From: David Beck Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:19:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Joon M. Jee books One of Joon M. Jee's HKD books just sold on Ebay for forty-some dollars. I was substantially outbid :( Anyone seen them? How bad should I feel? David N. Beck Internet:dbeck@usa.alcatel.com WATT Lead Engineer Alcatel USA 1000 Coit Road Plano, Texas 75075 ** Opinions expressed are not those of Alcatel USA ** ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:22:03 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Possible Emergency Dear McD: "...In sum, would be nice to visit GM Ji's Dojang, pick up a few Philly Cheesesteaks on the way there, and recall my wasted youth...." I believe that it is only fair to warn you that your gastro-intestinal tract may be preparing to sue the rest of your body for separate maintanence on the grounds of cruel and unusual punishment. From what I understand General Foods and McDonalds are co-complaintants citing your obvious attempt to corner the world supply of animal fats. May I recommend a Liquid Plumber enema before you explode? Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:08:04 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #297 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.