From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #302 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 17 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 302 In this issue: the_dojang: Hey, I hear you know Karate the_dojang: RE: The Great Ones the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #301 the_dojang: KHF Impersonators [none] the_dojang: The one the_dojang: Nashville Korean Martial Arts the_dojang: Re: New Tae Kwon Do Book [none] the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Leslie Harris Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: Hey, I hear you know Karate Greetings, There were a few brief comments on the list earlier regarding friends or acquaintances finding out that we train in the martial arts and then saying things like "think you can beat me up?" or "show me what you know," etc. Yesterday, I was told that a middle-school aged blue belt in our (tkd) school was challenged by a classmate with the line "I hear you know Karate. Why don't you show me what you know." The blue belt student turned to his classmate and bowed. Then walked away. Challenge over. I thought he handled himself very well in a situation that wasn't likely to escalate (ie, he wasn't in a dangerous place with a dangerous person). Certainly can't recommend it as the first move in a barroom brawl, but it sounds like a good response to those basically harmless people who just don't get why we train.... Respectfully, Leslie ------------------------------ From: "Michael Rowe (outlook)" Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:57:40 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The Great Ones > Who's the greatest martial artist you ever saw, and if you could train with > anybody on the planet (living or dead) who would it be (and why)? > > My answers: > 1. Dan Inosanto > 2. Jigoro Kano...because the guy was a visionary, a technical innovator, > and (most importantly) an educator in the highest sense of the word. 1. In Sun Seo 2. O-Sensei Morihei Ueshiba There has been nobody in current memory that is as graceful, and effective a warrior than O-Sensei. Michael Rowe Dan Il Kwan - Gym of Unity Unity Church of Omaha 3424 N 90th Street Omaha, Nebraska 68134 ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:00:09 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #301 Dear Mark: ".......is 11 years old too young to train in a sword based system?..." For a child for whom sword is not an intrinsic part of the culture, probably. I would never completely rule out an art for a child. As you have probably read on the DD I, myself, do not teach Hapkido to people younger than High School, but some of the DD contributors do. We Americans are a society of media-driven image and status, and unfortunately traditional arts such as sword, whether Korean or Japanese or Chinese do not have room for such indulgences. Having said that I will tell you that GM Koo has a few students who are in the 11 y/o range, but they are Korean Americans who have a unique cultural bond with what they are practicing. For most Americans the image of swordsmanship is a product of TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES, HIGHLANDER, and now, CROUCHING TIGER. Unless that child is absolutely adamant and would be willing to submit to traditional training, I would send him to a TKD studio where things could be kept on a simple quide pro quo (read also "kicks for cash") basis. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Hottstuff5344105@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:25:19 EDT Subject: the_dojang: KHF Impersonators I have been amazed at the number of organizations that claim to be the best the biggest the whatever and then they impersonate the Korea Hapkido Federation. Sang H. Kim filmed the KHF demo team and release the demonstration and an instructional set without their persmission (He claimed that they were filming for CNN). The IHF, the tiniest Hapkido organization, run by Cho Won Sang in seocho-ku, Seoul, Korea took video footage of a KHF Demo Team practice session (claiming to be filming a martial arts documentary for KBS) and released it as the Instructional Tapes for the IHF??? And if you write the the Korea Hapkido "Association" and ask for videos they send you tapes of a KHF demonstration from 1997. Instead of stealing their material why don't these wanna-bees practice, try to meet the KHF standards and test for rank? I hope that I don't sound angry, I am really just feel embarrassed for these losers. They go so far to embellish the truth about who they are and what they are. There are some great Hapkido masters who will leave their mark on Hapkido history. Then there are groups who will simply leave a stain. Richard Hackworth http://khfhapkido.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:58:19 -0400 Subject: [none] >"Craig Stovall" wrote >Who's the greatest martial artist you ever saw, and if you could train with >anybody on the planet (living or dead) who would it be (and why)? Woooo, good question :o) I have two choices though. I went to our Grangmaster's tourney (25th Annual Garden State Invataional) on April 7th, this is the first time I actually met my grandmaster (Ki Yun Yi). Man! I was nervous and I wasn't even in the tourey lol! Anyways, he did a "demo" that just floored me. It was nothing fansy, but it was almost perfect. He even did "self defence" techs with his own belt! I love to train with him (I don't know why I don't, cause his main school is about 45 minutes from me lol). Grandmaster C.S. Kim was also there and did a demo also. That man is flawless (Or it seemed like it)! I suppose he had to be. He used a guy to "attack" him with a REAL knife, and never got touched by the blade! I'd love to train with him also for the way he teaches his students that almost perfect "snap" when doin forms. His students looked sharp and crisp. Not that my school didn't, but we do more of a "flow" when we do forms. >1. I cant recall his name right now but he did a demonstration at a >tournament that I was at last year. I needed to have a video camera to >record everything so I could play it in slow motion just to figure out what >he was doing. I unfortunately didnt, but I think that he did 360 roundhouse >then a turning hook kick all in the air. I now very little about him other >than he was a member of the korean tigers demonstration team. I seen them (The Korean Tigers) on a website and it showed them doin flawless "tricks". They are really good! But I really think he did a 540 roundhouse kick (not the 360). The 360 would have been too easy for him lol. If you would like the website, let me know and I'll email it to you (you have to have windows media player or real player to watch the demo's on the site). Talk to you all soon. Tang Soo! Dizz _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: todd miller Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:12:14 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: The one If I could train with anyone alive or deceased. The first person would have to be Doju Nim Choi, Yong Sool for Hapkido and his teacher Takeda Sokaku. My next choice would be his top student GM Lim, Hyun Soo who trained with Choi, Yong Sool longer than any other. I am fortunate that I already have and continue to train with the best!! TM ------------------------------ From: Charles Richards Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Nashville Korean Martial Arts In addition to a Kumdo school suggested by GM West I have found; Haw's TKD 1733 Church Street MDK TKD Shin's Martial Arts Institute 7731 HWY 70 MDK Smith's Karate MTSU Tang Soo Do Does anyone on list know any of these folks, or care to give opinions?? Yours in Jung Do, Charles Richards Moja Kwan TSD __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "T. Kennelly" Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:06:46 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: New Tae Kwon Do Book Would you tell us about yourself and your experiences that led you to write this book. > About a year ago I posted that I had a book on Tae Kwon Do being released > and it finally came out in bookstores just after X-mas. I wrote it 1996 and > it's finally here. It's called "TaeKwonDo Sparring: For the Ring and the > Street"-published by Unique Publications in California. They also publish > "Inside Kung-Fu" and whole bunch of other popular Martial Arts Magazines. > > It's being sold in bookstores and all over the internet. ------------------------------ From: Sarah Pride Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:58:11 -0500 Subject: [none] >>>I think your techniques used against a "monolith" would work good >>>if you had the right "mindset" and were thinking tactically when >>>you picked the right targets to use them against. Are you kicks >>>strong enought to surprise, hurt or disable if you fired them >>>against his knee, grion, floating ribs, zyphoid process (top of >>>abdomen over diaphram) or temple? Part of a ggod defense or use >>>of your skill is sound planning and picking of the areas that >>>would help make up for your lack of size or strength... Just my >>>.02 cents....<<< I am actually rather strong for a female, and I've been told my kicks can hurt through padding. :) The point is, how practical would they be in an altercation? Not very. The first kick might be a surprise, but if I didn't manage to disable with the first blow it would be just about over. Knee-level kicks, maybe. Any higher can be grabbed, no matter how fast you are. My sister and I goof around outside of class all the time, and it always ends up with someone grabbing someone else's foot. The grabbee then hops around, totally helpless. So I'm thinking, as everyone else has been saying, that most MAs can improve your mindset and self-confidence - but don't count on them to make you invincible. - -Sarah Pride- ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:07:19 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #302 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! 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