From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #308 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 19 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 308 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Weighty issues the_dojang: Posting the_dojang: Re: visualization the_dojang: Cross Training and Kid Hapkido the_dojang: Sparring the_dojang: list slow for a week or so... the_dojang: Good day philosophy the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Clothahump Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:01:42 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Weighty issues > From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov > Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:35:09 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: RE:Weighty Issues > > Oh,oh. Gotta run. I think I hear the GOOD HUMOR truck--- > I heard it, too, but I couldn't waddle fast enough to catch it..... :-( ------------------------------ From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:27:58 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Posting Craig wrote: > take a minute > to consider how Sarah is probably reacting to your post. Do you think she's > bubbling with joy? Hi Craig: Just wanted to let you know that I appreciated your sensitivity. Good answers need not contain venom or ridicule. Sincerely, Rudy ------------------------------ From: JSaportajr@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 13:17:54 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: visualization I am curious how many martial artists on this list practice visualization in a systematic way as part of their martial arts practice. There was a study of Olympic skiers who were taught to visualize skiing their course, and they found that the time it took to visualize the course correlated pretty closely with the time it took to actually ski it. Also, they were able to measure miniature, barely perceptible muscle contractions that were the same muscles contracting in the same sequence as if they were actually skiing the course. When I was active in Taekwondo, I regularly visualized myself practicing my forms. Now, after Hapkido class, when I am lying in bed I visualize all the techniques we did that day in order to better commit them to memory. An added benefit is that I some times have trouble falling asleep after working out, and this seems to work better than counting sheep. How many other list members visualize their practice in a systematic way? Jose' ------------------------------ From: Lorne Keatley Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:26:20 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Cross Training and Kid Hapkido Hi all, First off, I was wondering how everyone feels about the phenomenon of cross training. Personally, I advocate it and am fortunate enough to have an instructor is is very open towards other arts. However, I feel one should have worked in confines of one system for at least a decade. Basics in arts are the same, but cross training too soon will inevitably end up as one GM put it, "chop suey" I believe there is a danger as material will be removed from one system to be replaced with material from somewhere else. True systems were formed with a logical progression of technique. Any change to that order would end up with a student who does not grasp those concepts that are the basis of their systems. Scary thought. Interested in hearing other's takes on this. Onto other things, I started training in Korean Martial Arts when I was 11. I believe that gives me an advantage that I have lived it, as opposed to someone who started later in life. More time to soak the material in. I believe most of the current GM have started as early as five years old. Finally, I know for a fact that the material I learned was "true" Hapkido, whatever that entails. Lorne ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:35:52 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Sparring Hiya all. I have a guestion about sparring. What is the point of sparring (for training purposes, that is)? Just keep in mind, I'm not "bashing" sparring, but I really don't understand the point in sparring. Unless you like that sort of thing for the "sport" end of it. Then it is a very good training drill. Don't get me wrong. I go to tournies to watch a good sparring match, and cheer for my friends and my school. But I don't see a point in using it as a training drill other than the "sport" end of it. I took up martial arts mainly to learn self defence. I'm learning stuff now that I can't use in sparring. Like how to take out a knee cap, eyeballs, hitting "below the belt", pressure points, take-downs, ect. All that is illegal in sparring, but it's good for self defence. In sparring, you can only hit above the belt, and only controlled kicks to the head (some places don't even allow that). On the street, that wouldn't work, unless you have a superfast roundhouse and can hit the person's head AND hurt them at the same time. Hitting above the belt might work if you have a powerful kick to the tummy of the attacker and be able to pull it back quick enough. I'm definitely not quick (yet), so I'd get my butt kicked if I try that stuff. I'd rather go for the knee or ..... well ya get the idea. And use more hand tech's than kicks (eventhough I have pretty good kicks for my rank). I thought maybe I could use it for getting used to getting hit. Ok, now what? Then I started to think, "ok, maybe I can use it to get better at blocking." What next? Maybe it's because I'm still fairly new at the martial arts, and I still don't understand everything yet (I'm a 6th gup in TSD). I'm the type of person that asks "why" all the time (why does that work or how), or what's that for (in forms). I'm always asking questions to better understand. I'm constantly "picking brains" for stuff. I just don't learn the motions. I wanna know what that motion is for and how and why it works. Ok, enough of my ramblin lol. Thanks in advance to anyone who can shut me up about sparring lol. Dizz _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:33:56 PDT Subject: the_dojang: list slow for a week or so... I'm off to Ohio for a week or so, to visit family and teach seminars. The lists will probably be a bit slow during that time. Take care. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:35:32 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Good day philosophy Forwarded message: In keeping with our philosophy thread started by the Paul Harvey quote, here is one from Mother Theresa. I keep a copy above my desk. I'm sure other list members have a philosophical quote that really hits home with them. What is yours? Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath Mother Theresa had this on her wall.... People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered -- Forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives -- Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies -- Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you -- Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight -- Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous -- Be happy anyway. The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow -- Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough -- Give the world the best you've got anyway. You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God -- It never was between you and them anyway. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:58:09 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #308 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.