From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #314 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 29 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 314 In this issue: the_dojang: value of one-steps the_dojang: One step sparring limited the_dojang: copper/magnets and ramblings the_dojang: 1 step sparring the_dojang: One Step Sparring Limited the_dojang: Clothes Martial Artist where outside the dojang the_dojang: Dr. Hackworth=GM Kim=real Korean experience the_dojang: hapkido school -- chicago the_dojang: Memorial Day the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #313 the_dojang: Board Breaking Physics the_dojang: Fwd: DORMANT VIRUS ALERT the_dojang: Video during class the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TNT-Police Combatives ." Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:32:59 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: value of one-steps It is an unfortunate thing, but many arts that adhere to the ultra-classical approach fail to prepare students for real life encounters by including realistic defense techniques. This is not limited to TKD. I have seen it in a number of other styles. I agree that the 'step in with a right front stance, right middle punch' is limiting, but for beginners, it is a great way to teach them some controlled application of technique. If the attacks don't become more real as the student progresses, the high ranks (like the black belt mentioned) get confused when random, non-traditional techniques are presented to them. Back in the day when I opened my first school, I realized that a good number of new students wanted one thing....to learn to fight and defend themselves. Hey, I wanted that too when I first started MA's. I also realized that the piles of one-step and even worse, three-step, did not help someone fight in an actual confrontation with someone who did not choose to attack with the traditional middle punch or correctly executed round kick. I chose action, and developed new self-defense techniques that fed off of normal 'street' style attacks, tossed the old techniques, but kept the basic principals. The trial and error was interesting, and many ice packs were used! The techniques cover all ranges, including throwing someone to the ground. BTW, if someone can only learn to fall safely on a fluffy mat, then their falling skills need serious work. IMHO, falling on hard surfaces once in a while is good for technique improvement and shows where errors are...although my aging bones like the fluffy mats better. One-steps are important in that they develop muscle memory. When faced with the random attack, the muscle memory of the technique should help the defender to act and not to freeze. At the blackbelt level, a student should be able to adapt to whatever attack is thrown...anything less is a failure of the instructor to properly train the student. I take it a step further and introduce the high intermediate ranks to scenario training. Doboks are put away, and normal clothes are worn. The language is sometimes harsh, and the contact is as much as needed to stop the threat. I don't think the old one-steps would stand a chance at working effectively during these scenarios. Times have changed. Fighting has improved over the years, which means that the morons who choose to attack people have also improved. Many of the defenses developed long ago no longer apply, but as instructors, it is our job to understand the concept behind the techniques, and adapt them for use today. Train hard - Train right, Mark Gajdostik TNT-Police Combatives _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:07:11 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: One step sparring limited Joshua Cather wrote: <> Oh wow! You got my attention, Joshua! I am only a green belt, and never tried that. We practice one-steps, and sometimes my instructor will "change" things a little to make us think, but nothing like you said. That is a great idea. I think I'll try that after class (a lot of us stay after to work on stuff). Thanks :o) Tang Soo! Dizz 6th gup TSD _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Harold Whalen Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:56:16 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: copper/magnets and ramblings Has anyone on the list used copper bracelets with magnets and what are some of your experiences with them? I have used one for sometime and the usual stiffness and the waking up in the middle of the night where my hands numb are gone it also has effected the usual joint aches that i have due to the fact i will not give into age. I have finally had the chance to take a break from work in along time where there was no pressure to perform or something was expected from me it was a good mental break that was long overdue. Now we can concentrate on the important things family which includes maureen,and Hapkido my two loves everything else does not matter. Thank you i needed to vent and I cannot afford to talk with Bruce or Jose..... Hal Whalen Gray Beard /Mustache society ------------------------------ From: Stickfighter27@cs.com Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:13:44 EDT Subject: the_dojang: 1 step sparring Hi Josh, I tend to follow in my old Karate Instructor's footsteps when I teach 1 step sparring for the simple fact I had a simular experience when I started in Chung Do Kwan TKD. My old Sensei used to make all Brown Belts before promoting to Black Belt Make thier own 1 step techniques up for their promotion. They could either work and elaborate from a previous technique or advance it and or just totally make it up in a real time situation. And this is how I am going to teach my 1 steps to my black belts as well so thier wont be any of this "what do I do next"..... Although I dont have a student that will be promoting to Black belt any time soon but in the future this is how Im going to do it. When I started my TKD training under my TKD kwanjanim I was practicing thier 1step techniques with them and started doing some of my older one steps from Karate just to see the surprise on the students face I was practicing with, he was a 2nd dan and I did this inside leg sweep take down. And he totally didnt know how to break his fall and almost broke his leg..... but his comment was "were not allowed to take each other down" this was what he said tome...I was in awe he didnt know how to break a fall, but I told him that the technique I performed on him was a basic WHITE belt technique required to advance to Yellow belt when I was in Karate years ago..... he was really surprised to see that.....I later told Kwanjanim about it and he said " in his tkd he teaches he dont teach take downs because he didnt think it was relevent to teach ground fighting or how to break falls because a good TKDoist shouldnt go to the ground" I left that comment alone and walked away but its this type of training should be in every martial arts school. So when Istarted teaching I combined both my Karate and TKD training I have so my students will get the best of both arts..... Not to mention I am now adding Pekiti Tirsia Kali and Serrada Eskrima and some Pencak Silat in the whole class format for my more advanced students..... I want my students to be experienced with some knowledge of all martial arts and hopefully can protect themselves if ever needed to.... and if anything else, just expand thier martial arts horizons beyond Karate and Tkd. Cory 2nd Dan TKD 2nd Dan Karate ------------------------------ From: Hottstuff5344105@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:43:16 EDT Subject: the_dojang: One Step Sparring Limited Joshua, I think that an important lesson has been missed somewhere. Step "Sparring" Techniques are not for self-defense. They are partner drills using martial arts movements. They were designed to make class more fun and keep people from growing bored with punches and kicks in the air. That is what GM Lee, Kyu Yon the chief instructor at the Kukkiwon Instructors explained to us during the course. At the schools that I trained at in Korea, Adults were not required to learn one-steps. They consider them drills to improve the balance, timing and coordination of children. I think that many schools here in the US teach them to everyone so that the adults can help with the children in class. Has anyone else heard anything similar? Richard Hackworth www.usnta.net ------------------------------ From: Donnla Nic Gearailt Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:07:12 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Clothes Martial Artist where outside the dojang > >From: "Dizzy S." >Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 00:57:41 -0400 >Subject: the_dojang: Clothes Martial Artist where outside the dojang > >Hiya, all. > >I'm just a requiring mind lately. Anyway, I have a question on clothing. >Before I started MA, I wore tight jeans, high-top sneakers, baggy shirts, >ect. Now, after almost a year in MA, my style changed. I wear loose pants, >lighter shoes, and tighter shirts. Maybe without realizing it (till now) >that I wanna be able to move if I ever had to use my training to defend >myself. > >My question is, what does everyone else here wear? Being a tom-boy, I'm not >worried about high heels and mini skirts, but how would ya "fight" (defend) >yourself in them??? Hmm Well I'm what you might call a "goth" or "punk" and my going out at night attire tends to consist of leather biker jacket, lots of fishnet, and 3-inch platform boots, amongst other things. I've never had to run fast in these however, I guess the spiky bracelets and necklaces (worn for decor only, not as weapons) make would-be attackers think twice. I recently advised the person before me at a cash machine, who was wearing her academic gown (like wearing "attack me" sign around certain parts of Cambridge where students are not liked) that doing sow as not a good idea as she might be attacked. I forgot that at the time I was dressed up like a member of the Buzzcocks and must have frightened the living daylights out of her by talking to her.... Goths/punks get a lot of agro for dressing differently and I tend to avoid the 5-inch heels in order to be able to run away in case of trouble. When not going out I wear tracksuit bottoms and other comfortable clothing, no point in getting dressed up to come in to study in a computer science department! Many of the members of the tkd club here have remarked that doboks are very comfortable and would like to wear them all the time for comfort! Donnla. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Donnla Nic Gearailt Computer Laboratory, New Museums Site, Graduate Student Pembroke St., Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. tel: +44-1223-334619 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dbn20/ "An eyelash! How could you be so careless!" - Jude Law, Gattaca ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Dr. Hackworth=GM Kim=real Korean experience Dr. Hackworth stated, in part: Response: I have spent a little time at Camp Casey. Had a few suits custom made there. Interesting place. So, if I wanted to experience the Korean real deal and train under GM Kim where would I contact him and where is his Dojang. Could he arrange for me to teach English while training under him. Let me know. Thanks, McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Maafa" Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:28:13 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: hapkido school -- chicago is anyone familiar with Master Lee at the Jungdo & Hapkido school at 3202 W. Montrose in Chicago? just trying to find some information out about him and the school. ------------------------------ From: "ISA CONSULTATION GROUP" Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 03:38:33 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Memorial Day Let us remember those who made it back to their country during the time they spent serving their country in the military, no matter what country they call home. But, especially those who died for their respective countries while serving in the military. With utmost respect for the VETS, George Petrotta 1962-1966 USAF http://taekwondo.4dw.com http://hapkido.4dw.com http://gpetrott.webjump.com ISA CONSULTATION GROUP includes ISA Martial Arts, ISA Web Design and ISA Consulting Services! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Via, Suzanne" Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:57:32 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #313 >>IMHO, I think prearranged one and three steps are good for the beginner maybe to green belt but after that I think you should make students try to think for themselves, and figure out the best way to use the techniques that they have learned on there own. . . . One of my favorite exercises when I teach class is to have students face each other, have one student be the attacker and one defend. . . . This exercise really makes you think and lets you study someone else's body before they throw a technique, so you know how to defend better.<< I thought this was interesting - ditto with the concerns about prearranged sparring . . . one of my instructor's favorite exercises is to blindfold us and have one or more "attackers" coming at us. Very disconcerting, but excellent for reflexes - just have to watch the adrenaline levels - it really does feel threatening - - and appreciative of sight. :0) Suzanne Via - ---- ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Nicole Swanson" Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:45:54 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Board Breaking Physics I am putting together some information for a board breaking class, including both discussion and practical exercise. One thing I have been looking for but been unable to find is the approximate pounds per square inch required to break various sizes of pine boards. We use 1 x 12 boards cut in 8 inch and 11 inch pieces for breaking. Of course we also often break multiple boards and cement blocks from time to time as well. Does anyone have any information they could share on the subject? Thanks, Jason Swanson 4th Dan Lincoln, NE ------------------------------ From: "ISA CONSULTATION GROUP" Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 02:22:04 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Fwd: DORMANT VIRUS ALERT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_6694_2c50_2464 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >To: martialarts2000@hotmail.com >Subject: DORMANT VIRUS ALERT >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:09:52 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [206.74.49.222] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBCDC3302002740043121CE4A31DE531E0; Mon May 28 17:06:30 2001 >From atechsc@sccoast.net Mon May 28 17:07:30 2001 >Message-ID: PM20008:09:52 PM > http://taekwondo.4dw.com http://hapkido.4dw.com http://gpetrott.webjump.com ISA CONSULTATION GROUP includes ISA Martial Arts, ISA Web Design and ISA Consulting Services! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------=_NextPart_000_6694_2c50_2464 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From atechsc@sccoast.net Mon May 28 17:07:30 2001 Received: from [206.74.49.222] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBCDC3302002740043121CE4A31DE531E0; Mon May 28 17:06:30 2001 From: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:09:52 To:martialarts2000@hotmail.com Subject: DORMANT VIRUS ALERT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_GVSGEBZMNG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: PM20008:09:52 PM This is an HTML email message. 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There has been a new virus discovered, and has been shippiing for a while. It may be laying dormant in your computer.
Virus  software can not detect it.  It will not become  active until June 1, 2001, at that point it will become active and will be to late.  It wipes out  all files and folders on the hard drive. This  virus travels thru E-mail and migrates to the C:\windows\command' folder.  To find it and get  rid of it off of your computer, do the  following. Go to the "START" button.Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH"Go to "FILES & FOLDERS"Make sure the  find box is searching the "C:" drive.Type in;  SULFNBK.EXE  Begin search.If it finds it, highlight  it.Go to 'File'  and delete it.Close the find Dialog box,Open the Recycle Bin,Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin.  You should be safe. The bad part is: You need to contact  everyone you have sent ANY E-mail to in the past 
few months.  I do not know how long this has been on our computers. Two computers at Midlands Tech. have been found with this virus on it.  One I had  sent E-mail to, one I have not. DO NOT RELY ON  YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE NOR NORTON CAN  DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME A VIRUS UNTIL  JUNE 1ST.  IT WILL BE TO LATE THEN.  WHATEVER YOU  DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!!
 
FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ABOVE, JUST GOING TO EXPLORER OR WINFILE WILL NOT WORK, BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU TRY TO DELETE THE FILE, IT WILL CHANGE ITS NAME, AND GIVE A MESSAGE (CAN'T BE FOUND).  BY FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIOS, THE FILE WILL BE MOVED THE THE RECYCLE BIN,AND CAN BE REMOVED FROM THERE.
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- ------=_NextPart_GVSGEBZMNG-- - ------=_NextPart_000_6694_2c50_2464-- ------------------------------ From: "Lasich, Mark D." Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 07:48:53 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Video during class Video taping is an excellent way, from an instructor's point of view, to SHOW students how they are actually performing specific techniques. When I had the luxury of two instructors in class, two weeks prior to testing we would video our beginners class, two students at a time, performing their form and one steps.....One of the two instructors would take those two aside to immediately view the tape, and help them identify areas that they could work on before testing. Two weeks prior to testing left enough time to fine tune techniques, without having to rush to correct things just days before testing. Two instructors worked out best, as class could continue, and the students could get that personal observation and inout on their own video performance. A third "helper" comes in handy to actually run the video camera! Admittedly, some students really, really liked and benefited from "V-night", as we'd call it. Some would openly avoid that particular class! All in all, I believe it was very beneficial, and was often times the only time students would view and analyze their own performance! Mark Lasich mark.lasich@alcoa.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 6:34:35 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #314 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.