From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #330 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 8 June 2001 Vol 08 : Num 330 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Knees and stretching the_dojang: KOREA TRIP 2001 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #329 the_dojang: side splits the_dojang: Hapkido and Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsu the_dojang: Re: knee problems and stretching the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Miguel" Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:16:53 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Knees and stretching > From: Donnla Nic Gearailt > Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:03:48 +0100 > Subject: the_dojang: knee problems and stretching > > I have been stretching on a regular basis for the last few months. However, I > am worried that I may be damaging my knees. The stretches in question that > worry me are those aimed at improving the flexibility of the muscle in my > inner thighs (side split muscles basically). Donnla, If you are worried about your knees during these stretches, the best thing to consider is one of those machines that you find at Century MA - www.centuryma.com . It creates the stretching pressure that you need (stressing teh adductor group) but it is done with pressure on the inner thigh and not the knee. The bad thing about these is cost. The Flexmaster-V is about $200. Ask at your Dojang. Miguel Garcia's Tae Kwon Do www.garciatkd.com 860-205-6807 Don't forget upcoming Cane Masters Seminar - Check web site for details under NEWS and EVENTS. ------------------------------ From: Hottstuff5344105@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 00:12:11 EDT Subject: the_dojang: KOREA TRIP 2001 EXPERIENCE KOREAN MARTIAL ARTS AT ITS BEST I think that the best way to experience any culture is to go there. The Korean Martial Arts Instructors Association will be hosting a trip to Korea October 15th-22nd, 2001. We will visit many cultural and historical sites like some of Korea's famous temples. We have scheduled training with JungDoKwan founder GrandMaster Yong Woo Lee (79 years old) Chairman of the KukKiWon High Dan Promotion Committee. A visit to KukKiWon for shopping and training. A visit to the Korea Hapkido Federation headquarters for a meeting and photo session with President Oh, Se Lim and Executive Director Lee, Jae Whan. Training with the Korea Hapkido Federation Masters Demonstration Team headed by GrandMaster Lee, Chong Soo. ShimKiDo and Weapons training with GrandMaster Buddhist Warrior Monk Seok Kyu Lee. There will also be a day of training with the Korean Presidential Bodyguards and the Seoul City SWAT Team Instructors. A visit to train with the Kyng Moon College Championship Taekwondo Team with GrandMaster Yim, Jong Won. Taekwondo, Hapkido, Yudo and TangSooDo testing will be available for those who qualify. I know that you see a lot of trips to Korea promoted in the magazines, but this is the one that could change your life. Don't settle for less. Richard Hackworth http://ma_success.tripod.com HAPKIDO TESTING IN KOREA I have been given the priviledge of being one of the examiners for a KHF testing that will be conducted for some visiting Americans in October. My official capicity will be that of the translator and also to score those testing. This year my name and photo will be included in the KHF GrandMasters Director and I look forward to the honor. Richard Hackworth www.nationalhapkido.net ------------------------------ From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:47:05 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #329 In a message dated 6/7/01 7:19:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << - - Butterfly position. this just doesn't work for me as I can't get my pelvis in the right position >> Donna- Having said that, perhaps you are pushing (physically and metaphorically) too hard. I have been training for a few years and still cannot do a full front split. Oh how I have tried! I also do yoga (which is not only great for increasing flexibility, but also for recovering from the muscle aches and pains acquired in the MAs) I can split to both sides, even side kick vertically on a good day, but my pelvic girdle won't allow for the front split. Just be careful. Yours in torturous stretching, - -Cheree ------------------------------ From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:45:01 EDT Subject: the_dojang: side splits Basically : DON'T DO THEM - EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unless you want really bad knees - these are terrible for your knees - instead if you get on the floor - knees on the floor - kinda of like the "girl push-up" position and rock forward and back (need a visual to really describe this) - it takes the pressure off your knees and stretches the inner thighs but a lot of the real popular stretches taught in some traditional schools are super bad for u - like neck rolls that go all the way around plough-po's - where you lie down flat on the floor and put your feet on the floor behind your head and more don't ever let an instructor have you bounce into a stretch or even worse - i watched one class where the instructor not only had the students do side splits- but as they did it - to "help" them he had another student bounce on their back to push them down ------------------------------ From: "Peter Kim" Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:40:47 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido and Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsu I just received a book on Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsu. It was written by Kondo sensei, and avail from Aiki News. Upon reviewing the book, I'm finding that DRAJ is very similar to Hapkido that I'm learning. Much more so than DRAJ and Aikido. For example, most of the technique are much more linear (still they are circular, and using 'aiki' is mentioned thru out the book) than circular Aikido. Most of the technique also include definite end, as in finishing off the opponent. And one of the technique looks very much like one of the three step sparring from TKD class. This brings up a question. From one of the interview that I read, master Choi has tought only DRAJ to his student because of what he has promised his master. If that is true, isn't Hapkido basically a DRAJ with kicks and other things added on? Pete ------------------------------ From: kronikmac Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:04:42 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: knee problems and stretching I don't know if this will help you or not but I found this link to a page that seems to cover quite a bit about stretching and flexibility. There is even a sacetion on stretching for the older athelete. http://web.mit.edu/tkd/html/stretching_toc.html Hope this helps you out. Danny Dodge ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 8:42:06 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #330 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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