From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #337 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 13 June 2001 Vol 08 : Num 337 In this issue: the_dojang: KSW & TSD the_dojang: training time the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #336 the_dojang: many thanks re stretching the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #336 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hottstuff5344105@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:56:59 EDT Subject: the_dojang: KSW & TSD Well, once again I have been accused of "Stirring it up" again with the Kido folks. It seems that Steve Seo has forgotten that I had been a student of KSW at one time. That class was advertised as "Kung-Fu" where I took it. What about KSW is "uniquely" Korean other than some of the Hapkido they like to mix in? Or is Hapkido uniquely Japanese? I don't really care. I like Hapkido just the way it is. I enjoyed the KSW training when I was doing it. I was trying to get an educated comparision of KSW & TSD. I didn't know that KSW is now claiming to have "zero" Chinese roots. There is no shame in it. Does HwaRangDo also claim to have NO Chinese influence? I don't think that anyone cares one way or the other. The Hapkido people don't run around saying that there is no Japanese influence in their system. Whats the big deal? Richard Hackworth Former KSW Member ------------------------------ From: "Christa Stevens" Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:33:00 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: training time Hello Everyone, I am actually addressing the list on behalf of one of my students this time. He is conducting research on the average amount of time students spend in training before they earn their first Dan. He is wanting to compare various age groups as well as training styles. I told him that i would pose the question to the list but could not guarantee he would get many responses. His questions are as follows: *How long did it take you to earn your first Dan? *If you are an Instructor, what is the average time for your students? *Does this time differ depending on age? *In what style(s) do you hold a Dan grade? *On average approximately how many hours did/do you train a week? You may either e-mail your responses to him at muellerbt@hotmail.com or to me at christals@hotmail.com On his behalf, I would like to thank you all in advance for your assistance. - -Christa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:13:47 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #336 Hiya all. It's been a while since I posted, but here goes. I wanna chat about a coupla things that are being talked about here. The first is some Korean arts having Chinese influences. For me (A TSD'er), I do see the chinese "flavor" in the Pyung ahn forms, but I can't say much about the other styles, except Hapkido and Aikido are also similar. But for me, I don't "judge" a style by where it came from or what it's influenced by. Every style has it's own benifit no matter who or what influenced it. I think ALL martial arts is great. Martial arts is an Art. And they are very beautiful to me, like a painting, each coming from a different artist. Yes, I study the arts for self defence, but I also realized in the past year how beautiful the forms are. I now practice it as an art also. As far as karate helping ADD/ADHD kids, it does work. A friend of mine has two ADD kids in my school. One started a few months after me. A 10 year old. He would talk back to his mom, and not pay attention in class. After only 8 months, this kid is like a new person. Very sweet boy. His brother, however, will take a little longer. A 5 year old. He's been in it only 6 months. There is improvement, but he still gets upset, and talks back to his mom. But, he does pay attention now. As far as self esteem goes, I can tell you that karate helped ME with that. I was the type of person who had little or no self esteem, confidence, ect. But in the past year karate gave me this "I can" instead of the "I can't" attitude :o) I don't say "I can't do that" without trying first. Then I get yelled at for saying "I can't" and I try it over and over till I CAN :o) I'm more determined to do something or get something right. Well, enough from me hee hee. Talk to you all soon. Tang Soo! Dizz 6th gup TSD _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Donnla Nic Gearailt Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:47:06 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: many thanks re stretching Many thanks to all who replied to my recent query about stretching! Donnla. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Donnla Nic Gearailt Computer Laboratory, New Museums Site, Graduate Student Pembroke St., Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. tel: +44-1223-334619 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dbn20/ "An eyelash! How could you be so careless!" - Jude Law, Gattaca ------------------------------ From: NRE98@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:21:11 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #336 In a message dated 06/12/01 5:36:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << > Karate CAN be a means of improving self-control, if the child enjoys and > feels empowered by the activity. It cannot aid in the development of > "attentional focus" because that factor is chemically defined in an ADD/ADHD > child. If the author means "focus" as in direction, then yes, that can happen. >> I didn't catch the beginning or rest of this message, but I would like to share that I have a son who is ADD/ADHD and has been training in taekwondo for 7 years. When he started at 6, our master instructor was not sure if he could teach him, given his lack of attention span, focus and inability to stand still. Given time, however, and our instructor's refusal to give up on anyone, my son has improved 100% and is now training towards his 2nd dan. He has learned to control himself and can stand and sit still for hours at a time. I give all the credit to the training, our master instructor, my son's hard work, and the loving, "strick but fair" instruction he's been given. I firmly believe that if the standard is set, it will be met. The chemical factors that you mention are there, and it has taken hard work with my son because of that, but I definitely believe that attentional focus can be learned through the arts. Thank you. Nancy, 2nd dan/instructor ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 7:40:01 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #337 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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