From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #354 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 22 June 2001 Vol 08 : Num 354 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Dano or Tano the_dojang: RE: fear of Sparring the_dojang: Re: The Hacker the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:32:06 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Dano or Tano <<<>>> Thanks for posting that Ray. I almost forgot it was that time of year. Also interesting to see the different romanizations. :-) I have attened two of the Tano festivals in Kangnung. (Note, I have seen the Tano spelling more than the Dano spelling, and according to one book I have it is supposed to be "t" when at the beginning of the word. This same book spells "Dojang" with a "t" or "To jang." I think Kangnung is the more accepted way of spelling the city as well, though I have seen it several other ways too) No matter how you spell it, Kangnung is the city I lived in and where I go back to visit in-laws and my HKD instructors. The Tano festival is a big deal and a good time. Sort of like a big fair, carnival, festival all rolled in one. They set up along the banks of the river than runs through Kangnung. All sorts of games, people selling things, a circus, exhibits, plays and performances, etc. One of the events I enjoyed watching was the Sirum wrestling. I also got grabbed to join a group playing a traditional Korean drum one time with a group that was putting on a show. (Luckily I didn't need much skill, just hit it when the others were hitting there's, I left the skilled drumming to them) One time I looked at a web site that had pictures of the river banks lined with all of the tents and attractions, but I do not know the site. Here is one that tells a bit about the festival, but doesn't have a lot of pictures. http://korea.insights.co.kr/festival/fes_06.html Some time in the future, hopefully I will have a scanner and will be able to share some of mine from the event. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:27:08 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: fear of Sparring Dear DS: "..If someone cannot spar in a controlled atmosphere knowing their opponents are > there to learn just as they are, how in the world would they hope to be able > to defend in the real deal? I see contact sparring experience as > absolutely essential in training...." I don't know that I would use the word "essential" in training. Certainly sparring can be an important adjunct. I would be careful not to draw too many quick parallels between sparring and fighting, though. One reason for this caution is that fear responses to both sparring and fighting are a bit more complex than just "I don't like to fight" or "nice people don't do that." Let me use my own history as an example. In my case I grew up in a house in which there were extreme views on fighting. My dad was an ex-Navy boxer and you can imagine the testosterone driven messages I got from that! On the other hand my mother was one of those transcendent pacifist types who aschewed violence. I leave it to your imagination the sort of mixed messages that could go on in my head when challenged on the local playground. Even taking care of oneself in a schoolyard scrap requires a person to have some level of focus and with such mixed messages I was pretty much running on empty. The result was that for a good many years growing-up I was pretty much easy pickings for anybody with an attitude. Predictably my confidence at being able to take care of myself under just about any situations suffered. Had someone put me in a "controlled atmosphere" at that time my problem would not have been something simple like not wanting to get hit, but a rapid dialogue of mixed messages which distracted and interfered with my efforts to take care of myself. I think I would agree with you, DS, if all other variables in the development of two individuals were equal. In my life experience, though, I can't say that "fear of sparring" for one person is the same as what another person might term "fear of sparring" and for this reason I am not sure that I can agree with a quick parallel between sparring and combat efficiency. In my present circumstances and many years of training later, I have very clear and distinct messages for myself about combat though, coincidentally, I do not spar at all. In the actual matter of addressing fear of sparring I would fall back on what I shared a few weeks back about a fear of Falling. I do not believe fear is a matter of the activity itself but what a person says to themself about the activity. For instance a person may be afraid of confrontation because angry people scare them and the individual imagines that maybe this partner, even in a controlled situation, could actually be seething inside unbeknownst to everyone. Maybe a person is dealing with a mess of mixed messages about the appropriateness of confrontation and combat as was I. Maybe actually getting hit in sparring not only feels uncomfortable but triggers feelings of frustration and anger at not being able to take care of oneself. Maybe its something as simple as not wanting to be shamed or embarrassed in front of others while participating in an unfamiliar activity. Just like learning to breakfall I think the most effective approach is to gradually shape the individual's behavior towards what you would finally want it to be. An example might be starting with one step sparring, and graduate at the students comfort level to two step and then three step sparring. Maybe the next step would be 15 seconds of steady slow motion offensive and then 15 seconds of slow motion steady defensive technique. Graduate to 30, then 45, then 60 seconds. The idea is not to teach the person to spar as much as to teach them how to deal with the fearful reaction inside and allow them opportunities to experience that the fear reaction has no basis in fact. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Bruce W Sims www.midwesthapkido.com ------------------------------ From: d.d.parker@juno.com Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:08:10 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The Hacker Here;s an even better suggestion: buy a firewall and learn about network security BEFORE you allow yourself to be vulnerable. The vast majority of hacks are caused by human error. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:09:17 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #354 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.