From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 26 June 2001 Vol 08 : Num 359 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: The Korean War the_dojang: RE: Belly Button Stuff the_dojang: RE: Ship Pal Ki stuff the_dojang: on line resource the_dojang: testings the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #358 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:50:10 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The Korean War Dear Ray: Thanks for your many contributions regarding Korean culture and history, but a very special "thanks" for the last one on origins of the Korean War. As a former history teacher I know that there are many pre-disposing conditions that are glossed over in our History education. World War II history tends to focus on the American role in North Africa, Italy and Western Europe as well as the Island Campaigns of the South Pacific. There is massive amounts of materials about other theatres like Eastern Europe and Northeastern China that never quite get the same press in US schools. I think the Korean War is in this category. Its not for a small reason that this conflict is known as the Forgotten War, and much like the later Vietnam conflict I would bet most people would be very hard pressed to explain how it started or what it was all about. Thanks again. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:21:14 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Belly Button Stuff Dear Ray: "...At this point even the slightest contact to the belly-button area is rather uncomfortable....." Unfortunately, Ray the only feedback I can give you comes out of my own experience. I, too, had "bandaid surgery" for my gallbladder about 6 years back. Formerly, the usual hygiene was no real problem. However, I have since noticed that my belly-button is quite a bit more sensitive making it more of a challenge to keep clean. As far as the sensitivity to impact, I have not had this experience. However, I notice that you alluded to a couple of procedures and I wonder if had I too had more than one procedure if the sensitivity would be greater. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:44:48 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Ship Pal Ki stuff Dear Andrew: "... I presume you mean the 'older Ship Pal Ki' as the Chinese ma. I didn't say anything about the relative ages of the two arts but I presume Bruce is suggesting that the Chinese ma has been in Korea for a long time. This may not be true...". Thnks for the information. For a moment I would like to put to one side the actual time frame for the introduction of the Chinese boxing/grappling arts to Korea and ask if there is a way to identify the actual nature (philosophy and biomechanics) of the arts themselves. Some Chinese arts seem to have a rather loose organization while others are rather tightly organized. Then again there is that issue of emphasis on feet and hands, soft vs hard, internal vs external, etc. When a person states that they have studied "ship pal ki" I would be interested to know just exactly what that means. "....Note that Japan is also well covered with mountains and has a strong military-horse tradition...." I am right there with you, Andrew. I, too, have been wanting to develop a better understanding how it was that the feet came to be used as they did. I am another person who does not buy the "mountains" or "horse society" explanation, though I will agree that it could have been a contributing factor. One does not see foot combat techniques among Andean, Alpine or Caucasus mts populations and they certainly have been around long enough to develop something. In the same vein, I have not found anything to support kicking techniques among various horse cultures around the world either. How about an introduction of various kicking techniques from China to Korea where the techniques were embellished in the way that TKD instructors are regularly "inventing" new kicking techniques? BTW: Did anyone ever come up with an explanation for the phrase "recognized by the Korean Gorvernment" to describe a particular MA organization's authority? Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: "Jordan Kim Lee" Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:47:29 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: on line resource Hello everyone! First of all i'm a relative new comer to this list and absolutely love it! I have a question for anyone who wants to point me in the right direction. My Instructor said we do not have to buy our uniform and supplies from him. So I went on-line to see what I could find since i'm a college student and short on cash. There are so many sites that I don't know which are legitimate and which aren't so hot. There are some drastic price differences between them too. So can anyone point me toward a good martial arts retail site or two? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much, Jordan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Nicole Swanson" Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:43:40 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: testings I am currently debating moving from conducting promotional testings from every 2 months to every 3 months. Please give me some feedback on how often testings are done at your dojangs and why. Thanks in advance for the help, Jason Swanson 4th Dan TKD Lincoln, NE ------------------------------ From: jdoyle@comtech.com.au Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:16:04 +1000 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #358 Folks, This is my first post. I have been reading this list with great interest for the last few months and would like to thank Ray and the others who have made this possible. Reason for my post. Someone, I forget who, asked about sound files with Korean pronunciation. I have all the ITF patterns in *.Wav, if anyone is interested. I loved the "what is a blackbelt" discussion, and the comment "Blackbelt = experienced beginner" is now an accepted definition in our club here in Sydney (all credit given to the_dojang). Personally, I'm a TKD (ITF and WTF) student (1st Dan), with some Wing Chun and boxing experience. Yours, Julian ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 4:27:59 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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