From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #360 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 27 June 2001 Vol 08 : Num 360 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Promotion Testing the_dojang: T-shirts for special child the_dojang: Hi the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 the_dojang: RE: U.S nationals the_dojang: testing the_dojang: Re: Testing Times the_dojang: Re: Testings the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 the_dojang: Traditional Style vs Modern Style. the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:26:27 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Promotion Testing Dear Jason: ".....I am currently debating moving from conducting promotional testings from every 2 months to every 3 months..." As a teacher, the first question that popped into my head when I read your question was "why"? Perhaps I could be of more help to you if you could give me some rationale for why you test and what you hope to accomplish with a set testing regimine. In my experience different students progress at different rates, remain at plateaus for varying periods and elect to invest themselves (or not) in training at varying levels of intensity. I suppose what I am wondering is what sort of pressure are you under to provide so many opportunities for students to test? I would think that a test every 6 months would be more than adequate and provide a meaningful period of time for the student to master the next unit of your curiculum. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: GrannyTKD@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:38:11 EDT Subject: the_dojang: T-shirts for special child USTU will be honoring a little girl at the Junior Olympics opening ceremony in Tampa. Her name is Alexa Miller. Alexa is 7 yrs. old and has been diagnosed with progeria. Progeria is a disorder in which children age at 7-10 times the normal rate. There is no cure and the exact cause is unknown. Children with progeria typically live only into the early teen years, dying of causes usually associated with old age. Alexa is an incredible little girl. She is a green belt in taekwondo. She will not be competing in JOs. Although she is 7, she weighs only 26 pounds and is the size of a small 2 yr. old, but she will be there. She does compete on a local and state level. A lot of folks in USTU are really pulling together to make this a very special time for Alexa. School owners or instructors can help make this a special occasion for Alexa by donating one of your TKD school T-shirts. We'd like to get her a collection of TKD shirts from all over the country. I'll have a collection site for the shirts set up in the convention center....so please help to make this a really special day for this very special little girl. You can read more about Alexa on the USTU website (Forum---"Champion of the Spirit"). .....So folks, please, kick in a T-shirt---the smallest size you have and help make it a special time for Alexa. ------------------------------ From: "Sawyer, Mark D., M.D." Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:09:29 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Hi Newly subscribed to the list, interesting reading. I've just started Taekwondo, and my two younger kids are doing it with me. I tested out of white belt in Songham style, but just switched to WTF, so we're starting over. I'm a general surgeon at the Mayo clinic, so to the person who has bellybutton sensitivity, I'd be happy to answer your questions as best I can through email. You can email me directly at sawyer.mark@mayo.edu if you'd like. Forgive a newbie question, but I wonder if anyone could offer some advice on flexibility. I'm very tight, having ignored stretching for years. I've noticed a good (for me) increase in flexibility since starting Taekwondo and stretching regularly, but I'm not particularly happy with my abductor flexibility in particular. My sidekicks are pathetic, and if I go too high during a kick, I get pain in my hips. Any advice, or should I just keep working diligently on standard stretching? Thanks in advance. Another question, if anyone is willing to field it: which weapons, if any, are considered "standard" in Taekwondo? I've seen sword (which looks like a Japanese katana) joong bong, long staff, and nunchuka (sorry, can't recall Korean name). Any others? // mds ------------------------------ From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:50:35 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 << So can anyone point me toward a good martial arts retail site or two? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much, Jordan >> A few questions/comments: Does your school uniform have embroidery or a painted logo on it? If so, how much does it cost to have that put on? I used to think it was less expensive to purchase a plain uniform elsewhere, but the cost of having the logo put on is usually what raises the price so much. If this is a college club you are attending, the instructor should not be profiting from uniform sales, so the cost of the uniform may just seem pricey because of the additions/alterations. Also, know the weight, size (it varies from uni to uni) and material (100% cotton absorbs sweat away from your body, polyester blends breathe less, holding heat and moisture next to your body) of the uniform you want in order to avoid getting some crappie uniform sent to you. Then you will be stuck paying the return shipping as well. I was in your shoes once (or twice or 20 times). Just trying to help. - -Cheree ------------------------------ From: Chereecharmello@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:51:56 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 << I am currently debating moving from conducting promotional testings from every 2 months to every 3 months. >> Is everyone eligibe to test in a 2-month span, or only those whom you choose? ------------------------------ From: "Atchinson, Kerry M" Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:46:29 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: U.S nationals Mr. Lynn is now from New York, but we here in Kansas still claim him! He and his father, Master Tom Lynn Sr, were at Kim's Academy of Taekwondo here in Wichita. Go Tom! Kerry > From: Gregg London > Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:06:09 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: U.S. National Team > > Good Day Group, > > Here are the results from the U.S. National Team Trials, held this > past Friday and Saturday in Colorado Springs: > > Male Light: > > Steven Lopez (TX) > Tony Graf (CO) > Tom Lynn Jr. (NY) > ------------------------------ From: "Christa Stevens" Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:57:02 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: testing Hi Jason (and anyone else who is interested!), I have been in the process of revising our testing procedures and schedules to better fit students needs and desires. I used to have students test every three months regardless of age. Senior students tested every three months for a full grade and junior students tested every three months for a half grade or striped belt. So the junior student received a full grade promotion only every other test. However We have recently decided, by the request of many of our students, to alter this schedule further. Our new testing schedule for my students is as follows. Senior students (16 years and up) are ELIGIBLE to test every three months. However if the student does not feel ready they can wait till the next month or two. They don't have to wait another three months if they are not ready during their chronological month. Junior students (8years up to 16 years) are ELIGIBLE to test every four months, and the same policy applies to juniors as to seniors regarding readiness. My pre-TKD students (age 4 years up to 8 years) receive a star on their belt for every ten classes. Once the student has five stars, they are ELIGIBLE to test for their rank. Obviously the time between promotions can very greatly for pre-TKD students. So that is the basic run-down of our testing schedule. If you want to know the nitty gritty details, just let me know. Hope that helps. Christa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:31:07 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Testing Times In a message dated 6/26/2001 4:02:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I am currently debating moving from conducting promotional testings from every 2 months to every 3 months. Please give me some feedback on how often testings are done at your dojangs and why. >> We have one testing a month ... that way we can accomadate everyone no matter what time they enrolled in our programs here. Not everyone is ready to promote every 2 to 3 months and in some schools ... every 6 months. But given another month they might be ready. Why wait another 2, 3 or 6 months if they are ready in one month ? That is our reasoning. And no, no one tests every month ... no way! Illona ------------------------------ From: Piotr Bernat Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:29:33 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Testings > I am currently debating moving from conducting promotional testings from > every 2 months to every 3 months. Please give me some feedback on how > often testings are done at your dojangs and why. In our school testings are usually done twice a year, in January and June. There is also a third testing in August for those perticipating in our summer camp, but only a handful of people test and pass there. Sometimes the students decide not to test in June and prefer to give it a try during the summer camp. Usually, we have the biggest panel there (this year, we will have some 12-14 blackbelts taking part in the camp). And why six months? I just feel that 5 months is just enough to learn prescribed material for a Kup grade, if somebody trains regularly. Of course, there are always exceptions. If somebody is very good, s/he may skip grade and be double-promoted (but no more than twice before 1st Dan, and no skipping grades later). This way, we also usually have at least 5 years before somebody gets promoted to 1st Dan. Regards - -- Piotr Bernat dantaekwondo@lublin.home.pl http://www.taekwondo.prv.pl ------------------------------ From: FGS & KVF Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:37:40 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 > We test every 3 months, but not all are asked to attend. Spunky > From: "Jason & Nicole Swanson" > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:43:40 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: testings > > I am currently debating moving from conducting promotional testings from > every 2 months to every 3 months. Please give me some feedback on how > often testings are done at your dojangs and why. > > Thanks in advance for the help, > > Jason Swanson > 4th Dan TKD > Lincoln, NE > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Dizzy S." Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:00:34 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #359 Jason Swanson wrote: <> Hiya, Jason. I'm not an instructor, but I think it's a good idea to add a month (every three months) between testings. From a student's point of view, I feel that is a good time spand for learning all the material needed for testing. If I tested every two months, I'd feel like I was "cramming". In my dojang, we test every three months till 3rd gup. Then it goes to every four months. When a student reaches Cho dan bo (blackbelt candidate), they can't test for their BB for six months. I think the six month thing is a little pushing it, but every three months is good. The higher you are in my school the more forms (empty hand, bo staff, knife, ect, plus one-steps, self defence, ect) you have to learn, so I think four months is good for higher ranks. I hope this helped. Tang Soo! Dizz 6th gup TSD _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Prince Loeffler" Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:00:14 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Traditional Style vs Modern Style. Hello All ! I was reading an old article from Adolescence Magazine 1998 titled: The application of the Traditional Martial Arts practice and theory to the treatment of violent adolescent and written by Stuart W. Twemlow. Within the article, a study using a resource called MMPI, Trulson (1986) indicated that the impact of a Korean martial art (tae kwon do) on delinquent adolescents and found that those who trained in the "old style," stressing not only physical but also the psychological, meditative, and philosophical aspects, demonstrated lessened aggression, lowered anxiety, and increased self-esteem. In addition, scores on the Jackson Personality Inventory revealed a significant increase in social adroitness and value orthodoxy. It is important to note that youths trained in the more "modern style," which emphasizes fighting and competition, showed little change. Apparently it was the combination of mental and physical discipline that resulted in reduced aggression. what does the everyone on this list thinks about the above ? How does one define Traditional Style vs Modern Style... Once again thank you for sincere response to my anoying inquiry... P. Loeffler ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 4:04:51 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #360 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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