From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #416 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 18 July 2001 Vol 08 : Num 416 In this issue: the_dojang: nim vs ssi the_dojang: Hapkido In Thailand? the_dojang: I'm not sure if this is a form of discussion but... the_dojang: Titles the_dojang: crediting bb's from other styles the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Master Frank Clay" Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:40:27 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: nim vs ssi I thought that when addressing a normal (lol) person one would say ssi such as Terry ssi? It was my understanding that nim is not written, but used in spoken korean... anyone with a short post be able to tell me? Frank ------------------------------ From: In_Spec_Ops@gmx.net Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:54:48 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido In Thailand? Sawadee Khaap, It's Summer vacation time here in Korea where I work and study Hapkido. I'm going home to Thailand for my vacation. Would anyone have any info on Hapkido in Thailand? Are their any dojang there? Hapki, Tao, Koje-do ------------------------------ From: "Jim Jansen" Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:22:25 +1000 Subject: the_dojang: I'm not sure if this is a form of discussion but... Hi! I'm not sure if this is a form of discussion but I have a question. I want to start taekwondo training with a certain school, however my best friend said some things about it. I do not really believe him but I just wanted to clear it off my chest. Is taekwondo effective self-defence against seasoned boxers or kickboxers? thanks heaps, I will be very grateful for any replies. - -jimmy jansen _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ From: "G'irts Kalnins" Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:55:13 +0300 Subject: the_dojang: Titles Hello, While thinking about this discussion, I started to wonder about usage of English here. (English is my third language) Is it appropriate to mix English and foreign adressing/titles ? IMHO in chat/slang/joking/teasing it's OK, but in respectful conversation/correspondence you should not mix in foreign words/titles, but use those of language you use. If you speak English use Mr./Sir./Master if You speak French use monsieur/e.t.c. Adressing/titles are specific for each culture and each language, sometimes they specify position/standing (Her/His Majesty for royal persons, Excellence for high officials, as governors, ambassadors, and Catholic bishops and archbishops), sometimes they are used for a sake of politeness (Mr./Miss/Sir .. ). If unfitting title is used people could think that you don't know what you are talking, or that you don't respect them enought to find out proper form of adress. If you use simple form of adress (like 'Firstname' in company of peers, 'Mr. Lastname' in others), adresees hirt might not fill with gladness and warmth, but they will respect you. Of course there are multiple exceptions. "O Sensei" for Morihei Ueshiba is used for historical reasons and he is understood by this title, likewise there is currently only one Pope or The Queen Mother. As I wrote before my knowledge of English can only be better, and your opinions would be very valuable. Respectfully, G'irts Kalnins P.S. Don't forget use one title higher for army/police officials and university officials, some people value their titles, and you can spare you lot's of problems if you take care of that ;) ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer Towns" Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:58:37 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: crediting bb's from other styles Hello, In response to Dizzy's post, here is the policy from our school (Central FL TSD, a Cheezic TSD Federation School): Any student with prevoius martial arts experience enters our system with their rank from their past art. We had, for example, a green belt from TKD join, and he remained at Apprentice Green for 6 months, until he got current on all our forms to that rank, then was allowed to continue promotion as a regular student. It is a proper way of acknowledging/honoring previous practices, not making a student re-start at white again. Tang Soo! Jennifer Towns 1st Dan TSD www.cheezictsd.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 8:18:44 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #416 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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