From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #441 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 27 July 2001 Vol 08 : Num 441 In this issue: the_dojang: Translation Re: the_dojang: Translation the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #440 the_dojang: Copyrighting the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #440 the_dojang: Students with Special Needs the_dojang: RE: Books the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mac" Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:02:45 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Translation <> Okinawan Terms _______________________ Korean Terms Taikyuko Shodan - Kee-cho (or Gi-cho) Cho-dan Taikyuko Nidan - Kee-cho E-dan Taikyuko Sandan - Kee-cho Sam-dan Pinan Shodan - Pyung-ahn Cho-dan Pinan Nidan - Pyung-ahn E-dan Pinan Sandan - Pyung-ahn Sam-dan Pinan Yondan - Pyung-ahn Sah-dan Pinan Godan - Pyung-ahn Oh-dan Naihanchi Shodan - Naihanchi (or Nihanji) Chodan Naihanchi Nidan - Naihanchi Edan Naihanchi Sandan - Naihanchi Samdan Budo - Mudo or Moodo ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 18:35:55 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Translation > Okinawan Terms _______________________ Korean Terms > > Naihanchi Shodan - Naihanchi (or Nihanji) Chodan Naihanchi or Chulgi? I was thinking it was Tekki in Japanese, Chulgi in Korean? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Master Frank Clay" Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:25:36 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #440 Dear Sir, Okinawan Terms _______________________ Korean Terms Taikyuko Shodan - kicho hyung il bu Taikyuko Nidan - kicho hyung ee bu Taikyuko Sandan -kicho hyung sam bu Pinan Shodan Pyung ahn cho dan Pinan Nidan PA ee dan Pinan SandanPA sam dan Pinan Yondan PA sa dan Pinan Godan PA oh dan Naihanchi Shodan Naihanji cho dan (although some schools call naihanji chul ki) Naihanchi Nidan naihanji/chul ki ee dan Naihanchi Sandan - naihanji/chul ki sam dan Budo - Mudo Hope this helps. Frank ------------------------------ From: "Meghan Gardner" Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:17:36 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Copyrighting Cliff writes: <> I don't see the difference. Any money an artist makes from their creation is rightfully earned. In your mind, who should be the one to determine what is "making a living" and what is "prostitution" (which is actually a respectable career in some cultures). << If someone performs a kata/hyung that was created by another, is not that performance a form of free advertisement that the performer isn't necessarily compensated for?>> No one has the right except the artist to decide when and where their art should be advertised. I wouldn't want one of my creations associated with a KKK gathering, for example. << There's a very famous move in wrestling called the "Granby Roll" created at Granby High School in Norfolk, VA. Countless wrestlers (not WWF!) use this technique. What you're saying is that in competition if a wrestler uses that technique, and wins, perhaps even Olympic gold, then that athlete should compensate Coach Martin or what - - - lose the gold medal? >> No, that is not what I am saying. The Granby Roll can not be copyrighted... but it might (not sure, though) be able to be Patented. For more info on this, see: http://www.nolo.com/encyclopedia/articles/tc/PCT13.HTML <> One is a technique, the other is a choreographed performance. The law differentiates between them. <> You can exchange ideas... you simply can't copy and publicly perform specific choreographed compositions without the artist's permission. <> Likely, and if the creator cared, you would be successfully sued for copyright infringement. Meghan Gardner Director Guard Up, Inc. www.guardup.com "Always carry love in your heart, and a knife in your pocket." me ------------------------------ From: Creed71963@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:32:04 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #440 In a message dated 07/26/2001 6:10:10 PM EST, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Okinawan Terms _______________________ Korean Terms Taikyuko Shodan - Kee Cho Hyung Il Boo(?) Taikyuko Nidan - Kee Cho Hyung EE Boo(?) Taikyuko Sandan - Kee Cho Hyung Sam Boo(?) Pinan Shodan Pyung Ahn Cho Dan Pinan Nidan Pyung Ahn EE Dan Pinan Sandan Pyung Ahn Sam Dan Pinan Yondan Pyung Ahn Sa Dan Pinan Godan Pyung Ahn O Dan Naihanchi Shodan Nai Ahn Chi Cho Dan Naihanchi Nidan Nai Ahn Chi EE Dan Naihanchi Sandan - Nai Ahn Chi Sam Dan Budo - ?? >> First, they are form names (I think Shotokan, but I won't swear to it). I'm not sure about Budo (If its a Kata or not) The ones marked as (?) are ones I'm not real sure of. Craig ------------------------------ From: "Christa Stevens" Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:00:05 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Students with Special Needs Craig, I have had a fair amount of experience working with students of all ages who have special needs. I have worked with students with many different developmental disabilities including Down's and PDD. Some of the basic adaptations I have made include special private instruction sessions (which I actually offer to any student who wants a private lesson) and an achievement program. The achievement program is also great for "normally developing" young kids. All of my special needs students, regardless of their disability, train in my regular classes. Sometimes I will use a buddy system. I buddy the special needs student up with someone of their same rank rather than a more advanced student so that they learn from each other. I also have experience working with students who are blind/visually impaired, and even a few who have cerebral palsy or other disabilities that limit mobility. I also have a program for kids who are labeled "other health impaired." Hope this isn't sounding like i'm tooting my own horn here, because I'm not. I've just taken an interest in helping these special students do something that a lot of other people have told them they can't do. If you, or anyone else for that matter, would like more specifics on my training tactics etc. feel free to contact me directly. I have a few students who I know would be willing to share their stories too (they have in the past). Hope I've been of help (or at least can be.) Have a great day! Christa "If you treat a man as he is, he will remain as he is. But, if you treat him as he ought to be he will become what he ought to be." Goethe - ---------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:46:04 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: MA and Special Needs Kids I was just wondering if anyone on the list has had experience teaching MA to special needs children and adults. By special needs...I'm referring to those challenged with developmental disabilities...most notably Down's Syndrome. What's it like in terms of difficulties, challenges, obstacles, adjustments to curriculum, etc? Also, I guess one could expand the discussion to working with disabled (physically) children and adults...I'd be interested in hearing any of those stories also. Much thanks. Craig Stovall _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:42:17 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Books Bruce, can you tell me what the difference between Dr.Kimm's Hapkido I and II. Also, for the first time, I noticed you have published a few books. Where can I find out more about your Dear T.: "...Bruce, can you tell me what the difference between Dr.Kimm's Hapkido I and II. Also, for the first time, I noticed you have published a few books. Where can I find out more about your work..." . The use of the Confucian approach in education suggests a hierarchy of levels, where the preceeding Buddhist model suggests essentially a body of knowledge presented in its entirety. When I look at Dr. Kimm's first book I see him presenting a body of information which sets the foundation for understanding the nature of Hapkido as he has determined by being exposed to many of the major players in the field. The second book seems to graduate to a Confucian approach by taking much of that same information and structuring it in levels which are grade-specific. There is also quite a bit of additional detailing regarding the history and citations in the second book that were not used in the first book. I think the temptation is to try and identify one book as having an advantage over the other. The more I examine the material and the respective approaches, however, I see that they definitely play off of each other. (BTW: I am still hoping that someone can give me an overview of the PHILOSOPHY volume. I had this idea that I might try to pick-up on a copy while I am down in Jackson in August. This, of course, assumes that Dr Kimm makes another surprise appearance.) Thanks for asking about the work that I am doing. I won't pretend that it is on a par with Dr. Kimms' efforts, but if you take Dr. Kimms' work the next logical step and introduce a hierarchy of levels wherein each level builds on the material of the previous level that pretty much describes what the DOCHANG JOURNAL works to do. The books are designed to support any style of grappling art and have plenty of space to make notes, mount pictures, sketch across from each of the techniques. We all remember the various workbooks we used as we moved through the different grades in grammar school. The DOCHANG JOURNAL is a lot like that. Level 5 (1st Black Belt) is in the works but if you want more information on the four Guep levels there is a pretty good layout in AMAZON.COM that you can pull up using my last name. Thanks for asking. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 7:36:06 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #441 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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