From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #443 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 28 July 2001 Vol 08 : Num 443 In this issue: the_dojang: Nim & Sshi Again the_dojang: Meditation the_dojang: Mediation? the_dojang: Melt Down the_dojang: Re: Thanks for the book review Re: the_dojang: Nim & Sshi Again the_dojang: Re:B There r B square the_dojang: Video Review the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1111 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Language/30 Series Phrase Dictionary and Study Guide - Korean "When addressing someone whom you consider to be an equal, it is customary to affix the syllable sshi, meaning honorable, directly after the person's family name. (Remember that in Korea, a person's family name comes before their given name. (Therefore, you may address a colleague whose family name is "Yun" as Yun-sshi. If you wish to show greater respect or for formality, the title "sonsaeng-nim" is added after the family name. For example, Mr. Yun would be Yun sonsaeng-nim. If you know that someone is a company president or professor, you should use the appropriate title after their last name. For example, Company President Yi would be Yi sajang-nim and Professor Shin would be Shin gyosu-nim. If you know someone well enough to call them by their first name, you should also put sshi after it. For example, you might address a friend whose given name is Namsu as Namsu-sshi." The book also states "To address a married lady, use the word "yosa" after her last name, and for an unmarried lady, use "yang" (Miss)." but I think someone (Peter?) questioned whether or not yang was still considered polite. Mianhamnida (I'm sorry) gang, MK ------------------------------ From: "Todd and Debi Deininger" Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 17:57:49 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Meditation <<< Does anyone have any suggestions on how to begin meditation? >>> Mark, I would suggest to find a competent teacher. Meditation is not something to be done on your own. Todd ------------------------------ From: "Yarchak, Mary Kay" Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:13:08 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Mediation? Mark L., I know that Alcoa is everywhere but, for some reason I seem to have you here in Pittsburgh in my head... If you are indeed here in the 'Burgh, let me know. There is a good basic meditation class that is usually taught each semester out of the Pitt Continuing Education program. If I recall, it meets one evening/week for 6 or so weeks and costs about $40 or $50. Re: a good beginning meditation, my favorite is usually called "following your breath". To do it, I recommend sitting either in a chair (upright, not touching the chair's back with your back) or cross-legged on the floor. If the cross-legged position is uncomfortable, put a pillow under your rear (but not under your thighs). I only recommend sitting because it is very easy to fall asleep when lying down. As someone already said, then it isn't meditation. I think it can also foster the habit of falling asleep when attempting to meditate making it harder later on... Anyhow, regarding hand positions, some folks swear by palms up on knees, some say palms down, some say it doesn't matter, some use highly specific ways of positioning the hands (called mudras), some fold the hands across the abdomen. To start, do whatever is most comfortable, probably palms up on thighs/knees. Then, close your eyes (they may open a bit by themselves as you proceed - -don't worry about it) and begin to pay attention to your breathing. DON'T do anything to control it, just OBSERVE it. Feel all aspects of it, the inbreath, the point at which it changes from inbreath to outbreath, the coolness under your nose as you exhale.... (IMHO for this version, it seems to work best if done entirely through nose, the counting breath meditations seem to work better when done with inhalation done through the nose and exhalation done through the mouth taking dan juan breaths). Just continue to follow your breath. If (when :-)) you find yourself thinking about something other than your breath, gently bring your attention back to your breath. Don't get angry with yourself or frustrated. It's much harder than it sounds. How long? I'd say try to sustain it for 5 minutes at first and gradually work up to whatever time you can spend. I do 20 minutes or so. Phil's method also has its advantages. Try it if you start to get too serious about the whole thing. Hope this helps some, MK ------------------------------ From: Bernard Redfield Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:16:45 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Melt Down Hi, Had a total meltdown, and had to wipe my harddrive clean and re-install everything(still doing that), I have lost all e-mail addresses of course, so if I have not responded I didn't get it or did not get a chance before the crash, so anyone who has e-mailed me , no offense, just no way. Tang Soo Bernard ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:05:30 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Thanks for the book review Dear Rich and Jere: Thanks for the reviews on Dr. Kimms' book. I wonder if I can get it through Barnes and Nobles if Dr Kimm does not make an appearance? There was a question asked on Aikido Journal Net about whether or not Hapkido has spiritual underpinnings. Of course I answered in the affirmative but there are a great many times when I think it wouldn't hurt for this information to be examined in some depth along with kicking butt and taking names. I know there is very little resources available but I am starting a survey of Library of Congress (www.loc.gov) -- Korean Section to identify English language books which may be of interest to egg-heads like myself.I am given to understand that there are about 7500 titles to consider. There is also the Korean studies website which I want to become better acquainted with and will pass along info as it comes up. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:15:26 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Nim & Sshi Again > "sonsaeng-nim" is added after the family name. For example, Mr. Yun would > be Yun sonsaeng-nim. If you know that someone is a company president or > professor, you should use the appropriate title after their last name. For > example, Company President Yi would be Yi sajang-nim and Professor Shin > would be Shin gyosu-nim. Is it done in writing also? e.g. japanese business associates send email to me addressing me as Terry-san. Should one address an email or letter to a korean business associate as Yun sonsaeng-nim? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:58:12 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re:B There r B square Dear Jere: "...Bruce: are you going to make it this year again?..." Yep. Its taking a bit of fanagling but I will be rolling into Jackson about 10pm Thursday evening courtesy of Greyhound. CU on da mat Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 23:17:48 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Video Review September 2001 Black Belt, Essential Gear column: Hapkido Hoshinsul: The Explosive Korean Art of Self-Defense was definitely one of the big surprises of the day I recently spent reviewing products for Essential Gear. Featuring Alain Burrese, this Paladin Press production offers a smorgasbord of impressive techniques that are fully explained. It progresses smoothly and logically from simple locks to takedowns to throws, and Burrese's narrative is simple, clear and concise. This is one of the few hapkido instructional tapes that I have found worth watching and definitely worth owning - regardless of your level. The 80-minute tape lists for $39.95. For more information, call (800) 466-6868 or visit http:www.paladin-press.com. (Reviewed by Mark Cheng) ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 21:55:42 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #443 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 104C, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.org To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.