From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #445 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 29 July 2001 Vol 08 : Num 445 In this issue: the_dojang: Thanks for the book review the_dojang: Meditation + Thanks the_dojang: Knocked up, but still kicking Re: the_dojang: Meditation + Thanks the_dojang: Resources the_dojang: Resources the_dojang: Scary stuff Re: the_dojang: Scary stuff the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1222 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jere-hilland" Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:02:35 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Thanks for the book review The best way to get Dr. Kimm's books are to call him. 225-924-2837 or fax him at 225-924-4054. Jere R. Hilland www.geocities.com/hapkiyukwonsul ------------------------------ From: "Damian Jones" Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:39:17 +0000 Subject: the_dojang: Meditation + Thanks Now I'm curious... what sort of unusual things? Have you ever had any of these experiences, or know somebody that has? Are they reserved for the 6-pack version of meditation :-) On a serious note, I would like to thank everybody that contributed answers to the question that I asked re: WTF, ITF and Tang Soo Do Poomse/Hyung thanks for the info, another respectful discussion on the DD. I have looked at the excellent site of Master McHenry that was recommended and have another question. Is the bobbing motion in the ITF Tul the "sine-wave"? Damian Jones >From: Ray Terry >Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 9:59:34 PDT >Subject: the_dojang: meditation > > > Ummmmm...why is this not something to be done on one's own? > >Depending on the person, the type of meditation employed, and/or the >mantra one is using, unusual things can occur. These are seldom dangerous >IMO, but can be rather scary. Best to have a guide a long journey. > >Ray Terry >raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Wallaces9@cs.com Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 16:30:46 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Knocked up, but still kicking Hi dojang members I'm leaving lurk mode for a question that I hope at least half of you can help me with! I found out that I'm 6 weeks pregnant! I've figured out that I shouldn't be sparring or holding pads in kicking drills, but is there any other reason (besides occasioanally wanting to barf) I can't do things like line drills, forms or one-steps? Is there anyone out there who's been pregnant while practicing? Thanks, Stacey Wallace ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:00:25 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Meditation + Thanks > Now I'm curious... what sort of unusual things? Weird, strange, perhaps very scary thoughts or visions. Unusual sensations, e.g. like free-falling. etc. etc. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Sims" Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:41:09 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Resources Dear Ken: "..., I was just wondering what the address was...." Sorry for the delay. I always like to chack out resources before sending anyone on a wild goose chase. I have tried these but have not had the success I would have liked. Library of Congress: www.loc.gov (you are looking for the Asian Reading Room/ Korean Section. Korean Studies: www.iic.edu/cgi-bin/wilma/korean-studies (I was able to pull up the homepage for the IIC but was not able to get to the study group.) Korean Studies: www.iic.edu/hoffman/6.html I am open to suggestions if anyone else has ideas or resources. Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 7:59:26 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Resources There is also a Korean studies dist list. I have previously posted info on how to subscribe to it. The book reviews that I have cross posted to our list came from there. The Korean studies list is a low volume list, sometimes going a month without a submission. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Craig Stovall" Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:17:13 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Scary stuff Ray wrote, "Depending on the person, the type of meditation employed, and/or the mantra one is using, unusual things can occur. These are seldom dangerous IMO, but can be rather scary. Best to have a guide a long journey." Are we saying that these "unusual things" are internal psychosomatic experiences triggered by the meditation...sort of like a bad dream, or bad acid trip? I'm confused, curious, and skeptical all at once. Also, has anyone experienced anything like this (without pharmaceutical aid)? Craig Stovall _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:18:42 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Scary stuff > Are we saying that these "unusual things" are internal psychosomatic > experiences triggered by the meditation...sort of like a bad dream, or bad > acid trip? > > I'm confused, curious, and skeptical all at once. > > Also, has anyone experienced anything like this (without pharmaceutical aid)? Of course. This is why a guide is useful. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:19:05 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #445 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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