From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #454 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 1 Aug 2001 Vol 08 : Num 454 In this issue: the_dojang: RE:"...don't leave home without it.." the_dojang: RE: More Kicks stuff the_dojang: Injured!! the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #453 the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #453 the_dojang: KSR 2001-14: _Nationalism and the Construction of Korean Identity_ the_dojang: Joon Jee Book the_dojang: Black Trim Uniforms the_dojang: Re(2): knives the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~1222 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to the Korean Martial Arts. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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I think I agree with you as far as routinely purchasing the top-line COLD STEEL for a daily carry. First off, that is way more knife than I need and while I could make an arguement for field use, like you, I use my pocket carry for simple daily tasks. All the same, I think that a good SPYDECO is worth the bucks and mine hasn't let me down for no more than I ask of it. BTW: I DO keep an eye on it. :-) Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: Bruce.Sims@med.va.gov Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:24:07 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: More Kicks stuff Dear Spunky: ".... Adults should avoid squat positions for any activity deeper than 90 degrees, esp if increasing the force by weights or jumping. Otherwise, they are just asking for a meniscus tear...." Of course we have been talking about hyper-flexing the knee. Help me out. Do you know of any information regarding hyper-extending the knee? I am thinking or people who execute kicks to a locked position, most specifically front kick, RH kick and spinning heel kick. Anyone? Best Wishes, Bruce ------------------------------ From: "Elizabeth (Libby) Wiebel" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: Injured!! Hello! Some of you may remember me. I've been an off-and-on member of this list and spend quite a bit of time lurking... however every now and then I speak up! This time, I'm unfortunately speaking up because I'm injured! I was in a car accident a bit back and have not been able to train all summer at any of my activities (tkd, weights, running). I'm still in pretty rough shape, but have gotten the OK from my physical therapist and other doctors to *slowly* start bringing some of my activities back. In the accident I injured neck, shoulders (mostly left shoulder), and right hip. Hip is almost completely healed. Long daily commutes and loads of computer work have not been helpful, however, in the rest of the healing process. I've been faithful about doing the exercises from my PT (who has done martial arts herself)... and was told that for the time being... 1 - no sparring 2 - avoid extensive upper body work 3 - do forms, but take the intensity level down quite a bit (i.e. mostly practice the actions, but don't do it at full speed or power) 4 - no stretches that are painful (as in shooting pain... not the "good stretch" kind of "pain") or make me dizzy 5 - weights are ok as long as i only do leg activity (extensions, curls, presses, but no squats) 6 - stick to recumbant stationary bike for cardio. when the shoulder starts to heal, slowly add some swimming. no running for quite a while. 7 - generally, if it hurts, stop. My instructor has been and will be very understanding of my situation. After all... he does not want injured students as much as we don't want to be injured! It's been a very _frustrating_ few months having all my activity taken away from me! I was supposed to be training for a half-marathon as well as getting ready for my red-belt test in the fall. That will all have to be put off. I'll return to the dojang in about 3 weeks (when I get back to a normal non-summer schedule) and start slowly... even just observing classes if I'm not up to participating. But despite all this prep and help and such, it's such a psychological strain! I hold a low-red belt in my school and was really feeling good about my training and progression when the accident occurred. It will be difficult to come back a step or three behind where I was... stamina, flexibility, limitations, etc. Any other suggestions from anyone? An "injury" perspective? Tips for making "observing" a class more beneficial? Additionally... I'm an assistant instructor. How can I make my "instructing" be worthwhile if I can't really demonstrate or participate? How can I make a comeback that I'll feel good about? I'm trying to look at this whole thing as an exercise from the Spirit in _perseverance_ and _indomitable spirit_ ... but it's difficult! Wise words from others would be much appreciated as I continue to explore on my own. Kamsahamnida, Libby - -- - ------- Libby Wiebel ewiebel@cs.wm.edu http://www.cs.wm.edu/~ewiebel - ---------------------------------- "Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes." ~ Maggie Kuhn - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Master Frank Clay" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:15:05 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #453 Cho Dan Bo from what I have been taught is kinda like a Junior black belt, Mr. Sims. I was just curious if anyone had a translation? Even today, some TKD schools around here use it almost like the term Cho Dan ie just before you become a qualified Yudanja. I hope this helps, so you can help me :) Frank Clay www.jungdokwan.net ------------------------------ From: "Master Frank Clay" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:15:07 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V8 #453 Forms : <> Jinthe, is an older form, i believe now callened either chinte, which is a form or Jin Do which is a different form. It would help if I knew the opening techinuqes. SAng Duk Kwan sounds like Sang Kuk Kwan which was like a snake form we used to do many years back. Dae Ji hyul, is finding the vital points of the earth, and an intersting form, to say the least. I am not sure oh lohanji, but lohan refers to someone like an arhat.. perhaps a different name for Soorim jang kwan? And WAn Shoo, is the flying swallow.. a very nice form which helps with internal power. Perhaps one of my Mu Do seniors on the list could perhaps help more? Frank ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: KSR 2001-14: _Nationalism and the Construction of Korean Identity_ Forwarding... _Nationalism and the Construction of Korean Identity_, edd. by Hyung Il Pai and Timothy R. Tangherlini Berkeley: Institute of East Asian Studies, 1998. Korean Research Monograph No. 26. ISBN: 1-55729-062-8. Reviewed by Sallie Yea Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology An enormous amount of scholarship has been devoted to unpacking the interrelations between concepts of identity, nationalism and their respective constructions in recent years. The profusion of generalist literature on the subject has been almost as conspicuous as its absence for the Korean context. Pai and Tangherlini's edited volume represents the first major attempt in English to critically examine some of the multitudinous expressions and engagements of Koreans with national identity and nationalism (notwithstanding such valuable, but more specifically focused, volumes by Chungmoo Choi and Elaine Kim's _Dangerous Women_ and Gi-Wook Shin's _Peasant Protest and Social Change in Colonial Korea_). _Nationalism and the Construction of Korean Identity_ follows a 1995 conference on the same theme. The aim of the book is, "to expose national narratives and their position as postcolonial constructions originally inspired by intellectuals and historians who were part of the anti-Japanese resistance efforts in the colonial period" (p. 4). The focus is, in other words, on identifying - and in some instances challenging - these narratives of Korean identity formation. The volume is ambitious in its coverage of narratives of national identity and the agents responsible for their construction. It includes chapters on language, religion (Buddhism and Christianity), music, literature, archaeological discoveries, shamanism and modern political discourses of "nation". The narratives analysed emanate in particular from scholars, intellectuals, students and writers of fiction. To my mind the chapters in the volume can be divided into three types of studies, depending on their subject. First are those that focus on the achievement of national identity through resistance, particularly against foreign influences (superpowers). Narratives of national identity drawing on this premise of "identity through opposition" include Fulton's chapter on kijich'on (camptown) fiction and Tangherlini's discussion of shamanism. Fulton's excellent and well-researched chapter explores the ambiguous status of Koreans who live and work in US military camptowns as expressed in literature. Tangherlini's chapter analyses the concept of cultural resistance, expressed through the re-working of indigenous Korean cultural forms. The second type of study includes those chapters that examine constructions of national identity through asserting or imagining a common ethnicity, race, language and/or religion. Chapters that fall under this heading include Pai's chapter on the construction of a narrative of national identity through historical/ archaeological evidence, King's chapter on the meaning(s) of han'gul, Buswell's chapter on Buddhism and Baker's chapter on Christianity. In these last two cases the focus is on the ways in which foreign religious ideologies became indigenised and Koreanised. Shin's chapter discusses the ways former President Park Chung Hee used national heroes and minjok narratives as a means of legitimizing his own political power. Both this chapter and Pai's are interesting because they make explicit how different interests can invoke and rework nationalist histories, events and objects for their own purposes. Finally, a more eclectic combination of chapters focuses on the tensions between discourses and icons of national identity and the changing, competing ways and contexts in which these are expressed. The main contribution here is Dilling's chapter on the evolving (and increasingly globalised/ capitalist) contexts in which Korean music is being performed. Tangherlini's chapter on shamanism also contains elements of this thread of analysis since shamanism, as an important component of traditional Korean culture, has been reworked in the context of democratic-nationalist discourses offered up by the student movement since the 1980s. There are two weaknesses in the volume, to my mind. First is a failure to deal adequately with the generalist literature on nationalism, identity and (social/ cultural) construction. I found most chapters' analyses to lack a theoretical sophistication, which could have been useful in further extending the conclusions of their own studies. References in the volume's introduction to such a body of literature are scant and this pattern is repeated through all but two of the chapters (Tangherlini and Shin's contributions demonstrate an engagement with the relevant generalist literature that is largely lacking elsewhere). Repeated references by contributors to Anderson's seminal work, _Imagined Communities_ do not represent satisfactory engagement with this literature given the prominence of "nationalism" in the title of the volume. A second weakness is the failure to embrace a fuller range of manifestations of how Korean identity is constructed. Here one can think of multiple examples and processes that could have been taken into account. One of the first to spring to mind is the commodification of select elements of Korean culture through tourism, for both local and global consumers. Another is the anti-imperialistic nationalist discourses emerging as a result of the "IMF Era", the economic crisis that began in late 1997 (although the volume's publication not long after the onset of the crisis perhaps makes it unrealistic to expect it to be discussed at length within). Yet another is the diverging (and competing) discourses of historically significant populist movements and uprisings (Tonghak, Cheju, and 1980 Kwangju for example). The uprisings in both Kwangju and Cheju have been subject to multiple interpretations in recent years that draw on different understandings of the nation. Finally, one might think of the implications for national identity brought about by South Korea's"new minorities", of whom migrant workers and North Korean defectors represent just two examples. Indeed, Fulton (p. 201) remarks that, "such contact offers a fascinating area of study precisely because of the cultural differences it exposes". This weakness of the volume is certainly not one individual contributors are beholden to mention, but it should have been at least alluded to by the editors of the volume in their introduction. I should also add that these suggestions are meant less as a criticism of the volume than an invitation to initiate another. Globalisation has presented a context and focus by which some of these new questions of national identity are begging to be addressed. In sum, the contributors to the volume should be congratulated on their informative and generally well-researched studies, and the editors commended for conceiving of a project that fills an important gap in English language discussions of Korean identity. The volume is useful for Koreanists, East Asian historians and anthropologists (perhaps more than other disciplines) and would be a valuable inclusion on senior level undergraduate and postgraduate reading lists for both Korean studies and the disciplines mentioned. Importantly, the volume opens the way for further explorations of the nexus between Korea and national identity in the future. Citation: Yea, Sallie 2001 Review of _Nationalism and the Construction of Korean Identity_, edd. by Hyung Il Pai and Timothy R. Tangherlini (1998) _Korean Studies Review_ 2001, no. 14 Electronic file: http://www.iic.edu/thelist/review/ksr01-14.htm ------------------------------ From: "Patrick L" Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:24:09 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Joon Jee Book >I've got that book. Yep, head height. I've got the second book in that >series, too. Anyone have the third? Wasn't there originally supposed to >be quite a few? . . . Thomas< If it is the book I recall - then the man involved returned to Korea, I believe before the third book. I would be interested in becoming reacquainted with them if they are the volumes I recall - they would contain pictures of my earliest Hapkido friends. Getting in the WAY, Patrick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "hackworth" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:23:25 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Black Trim Uniforms Black Trim Uniforms I have noticed that a couple of the uniforms that I bought with Black Trim would bleed into the white part of the uniform when washed. Is this a common problem? I have some uniforms that the Black Trim has faded badly after several years of washing and wearing but just this year I have come accross the problem with bleeding. Richard Hackworth www.americandragon.org 1st Annual PBMS Dojo Builder 2001 Progressive Business Management Systems, Inc. will be hosting the first annual PBMS Dojo Builder Success Conference for martial art school owners. It will be held in Chicago on August 11th. The featured speakers will be Richard Hackworth and Jim Zboran. To recieve a free information packet call Jim at 1-888-393-8934 or visit www.pbms4me.com Richard Hackworth http://ma_success.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: "Jon David Payne" Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:09:44 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re(2): knives >>People might comment on carrying the best because your life might depend on it... my view is that I'd rather make sure I have a cheap one with me than go without because I just lost my $50 Spyderco last week.>> I will agree that some tactical knives out there are just too expensive, but I don't think 30.00-36.00 is too much to pay. You can find a good Gerber EZ-Out in that price range. I tend to really shy away from "cheap" knives from China and Pakistan. I've seen allot of these that were unsafe for common everyday use. If you have a problem losing knives buy one with a lanyard ring and tie a piece of parachute cord to it (dummy cord) about three feet long (or longer if you need it) and secure the other end to your belt/belt loop. I used to do this with the US issue pocket knife and a Swiss Army knife when I was in the USAF Security Police and assigned to an Airbase Defense Unit. Jon David Payne ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 19:21:38 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V8 #454 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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